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Dual exhaust not connected to back box

Discussion in 'Motors' started by neocon, May 18, 2019.

  1. adam cool dude

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    Back in the old days men had real exhausts and no fake intakes. The new supra and civic type-r is embarrassing in the latter aspect.
     
  2. Stephanie Peterson

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    Just saw one of those Octravia Rs's at the shops and yep, it had an embarrassing exhaust just like in the picture.

    Vag group cars... :rolleyes::p
     
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    Sgarrista

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    Courtesy of an almost identical thread running on Pistonheads, here's a picture of a Lamborghini Miura:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCz0EhMWIAEskg5.jpg

    Miuras were produced about 50 years ago and I doubt anyone considers them an embarrassment. It's not a trend of automotive design I particularly like either, but let's not pretend its entirely new :p
     
  4. nicRob

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    Necessary on the Miura due to how the bodywork hinges though. Not necessary when the bumper doesn't move.
     
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    Sgarrista

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    So its excusable when theres a practical or necessary engineering reason? That's fair enough. But in that case...

    The Miura has disconnected tips to allow for the bodywork design. Some modern cars have disconnected tips to save the exhaust system in the event of a shunt. These both sound like fairly practical reasons to me; why should only the Lambo get a free pass?
     
  6. Nasher

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    They put fancy tips on it but hid them, then similar shaped fake fancy tips O_o

    Are fake exhausts and vents going to be a trend on EVs I wonder. Because if they do, I'm just going to go full ridiculous too and do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOspDFhTxsQ
     
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  7. MOOGLEYS

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    My Astra has two separate back boxes with proper exhaust tips from each. So many cars even high end ones now just have fake bits on the bumper.
     
  8. dale1uk

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    TBH I don't really see the problem. It's mostly a cosmetic thing, which happens all over the car. We don't complain about fake spoilers/diffusers/vents/grills/splitters and so on so how's an exhaust tip any different?
     
  9. Nasher

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    Yes we do.

    Things like the mechanical spoilers on Audis are just as bad. They went to all the trouble of making it and it does nothing.
     
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  10. Meridian

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    I'm so glad I wasn't imagining this. I've seen even high-end(ish) Audis with what is clearly one dummy pipe just so the owner can claim to have twin exhausts. Everyone knows that it's size that matters, not number...
     
  11. [TW]Fox

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    The other week I was very pleased to see that BMW are not partaking in this nonsense. The enormously oversized exhaust on the 520d M Sport is at least real.

    Then I saw the new 8 series with the most obviously fake exhaust tips ever with pathetic pea shooter behind :(
     
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    Sgarrista

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    To be fair, it could just be down to design aesthetics, not necessarily bragging rights.
    If there is only a single exhaust on one side of the car, which has been taken into account when styling the rear bumper, I would imagine adding a dummy tip to the other was a decision made by the designer to keep the car symmetrical.
    I have twin "genuine" exhaust tips on my car - I'm aware there is no real mechanical need for them on a 2.0 litre 4-cylinder engine, but I like them because I think it would look out of place with only one, not because I think more tips = more man points.

    You'd hope the obvious solution would be just to hide the exhaust tip entirely, thus not upsetting the symmetry in the first place...but as I said in post #30, we're an odd species who think exhaust pipes should be on show :p
     
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    Sgarrista

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    Unfortunately, if there's any problem with over sizing on new BMWs, I think it will be at the front rather than the rear; the new grille seems to just about work for the new 8, but I saw a picture of the new 1 series earlier, and it looks a bit ridiculous :(