Dune: Prophecy

kakarott · Tuesday at 08:51

End of episode 3, was tula using a thinking machine at the end?

eldergeek · Tuesday at 09:03

Efour said:
Episode 4

Some interesting stuff for book lovers.
2 more episodes?
Blimey speak about nothing resolving.
I think it's going to just be remembered as a shotgun spread of unnecessary dune universe ideas and characters.

I hope not. i'm interested to see an arc that shows the rise of the Bene Geserit, but I agree that there needs to be more focus - I think they're alluding to it in twice born, but I fear that they're leaving too much in terms of reveal far too late in the day. if this had been 13 episodes I'd be fairly reassured, but the fact that there are only 6 tells me that there's a relative lack of faith in the show's staying power. It couldn't have been cheap to produce.

Glanza said:
I don't mind slow shows if the pay off is there but so far this seems to building up to a whole lot of nothing, get the feeling this is going to end up like HOTD S2 where it didn't really go anywhere and it's more of a 'remember to come back for the next season where things will actually happen'

I hope I'm wrong with the next episodes but we'll see.

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell I was watching in HOTD Season II. It really feels like they made an ideological choice to dial down Matt Smith's dominance in favour of telling a story with Emma D'Arcy and Olivia Cooke. I understand that, but it wouldn't have stung quite so much if the writers seemed capable of telling an expansive story.

eldergeek · Tuesday at 09:04

kakarott said:
End of episode 3, was tula using a thinking machine at the end?

Tula is indeed a naughty lady. But i'll forgive her because it's Olivia Williams and i have a thing for older women.

Bubo · Tuesday at 10:22

eldergeek said:
I have to say that I think the weakest link in the show so far is Emily Watson. I think she's a powerful actress with a lot of range, but she looks dead uncomfortable in that role. Olivia Williams as Tula has been quite fun to watch though, Barbara Marten (Sister Avila) has become my pick for the harry Potter show when it goes into production.

Emily Watson is one of the reason why I am not bothered about watching this. In my opinion she had a couple of big roles, I'm thinking of that Fred West Appropriate Adult thing she did, and has been dining out on it ever since. I've not been impressed with much she has done since to be honest. That's just me though. Also, the idea it is based on the rubbish Dune books is also a bit of a problem. Sounds like I am not really missing much.

eldergeek · Tuesday at 10:36

Bubo said:
Emily Watson is one of the reason why I am not bothered about watching this. In my opinion she had a couple of big roles, I'm thinking of that Fred West Appropriate Adult thing she did, and has been dining out on it ever since. I've not been impressed with much she has done since to be honest. That's just me though. Also, the idea it is based on the rubbish Dune books is also a bit of a problem. Sounds like I am not really missing much.

I'm hopeful that Kevin J. Anderson knocking about has managed to curb the window licking instintcs of both Brian Herbert and Diane Ademu-John. :cry:

doodah · Tuesday at 11:17

eldergeek said:
Tula is indeed a naughty lady. But i'll forgive her because it's Olivia Williams and i have a thing for older women.

I quite like her as an actress and I believe she was a bridesmaid in Friends who hooked up with Joey (Ross and Emily's wedding), she was pretty smokin' then as well.

eldergeek · Tuesday at 12:46

doodah said:
I quite like her as an actress and I believe she was a bridesmaid in Friends who hooked up with Joey (Ross and Emily's wedding), she was pretty smokin' then as well.

i'm quite proud to say that I've avoided friends. :cry:

It's nice to know where she pops up though. I heard they had hugh laurie as well!

Efour · Tuesday at 13:08

I think Emily Watson is good enough. I think it's a case of writing. There's very little to work with and the role is rigid.

The thing that's got to me is how this is ment to be 10000 years before and and we are already "basically" set up exactly the same....
100 years after the butlerian jihad should be fascinating but it's what we have now. This feels more like 100 years before not 10000.
Stagnation already? It's unconvincing.

I wanted this to be so much better, I like it because it's fine but I don't see how a non fan could get anything from it really

eldergeek · Tuesday at 13:41

Efour said:
I think Emily Watson is good enough. I think it's a case of writing. There's very little to work with and the role is rigid.

The thing that's got to me is how this is ment to be 10000 years before and and we are already "basically" set up exactly the same....
100 years after the butlerian jihad should be fascinating but it's what we have now. This feels more like 100 years before not 10000.
Stagnation already? It's unconvincing.

I wanted this to be so much better, I like it because it's fine but I don't see how a non fan could get anything from it really

As I said, I worry that they're leaving the actual revelatory parts as a set up for the next season, which for a political intrigue show can be pretty fatal. Hopefully if it does get a second season, they'll look at it and re-tool.

Mint8 · Tuesday at 18:34

I get they dont want to much technology but basically there appears to have been zero development of anything at all in the 10,000 years between this and Dune - same clothes, same spaceships , same everything.

It would indeed make more sense if it was 100 years rather than 10k.

Darujhistan · Tuesday at 18:37

It's a 6/10 at best. I haven't read the books, so i'm not comparing the show to that. It's just bang average, and I think if you're not pre-disposed to sci-fi then you're going to bounce off it pretty quickly. Wondering whether i'll bother continuing tbh. Disapointing, wanted to like it.

It doesn't give any reason for anyone who isn't a Dune fan, any reason to to watch really.

kakarott · Tuesday at 21:58

They should have shown where the police capture some of these rebels. Not just because Desmond gave them a motivational speech.

And what was the reason for the emperor's wife leaking that info exactly?

eldergeek · 2024-12-11T03:41:49+0000

kakarott said:
They should have shown where the police capture some of these rebels. Not just because Desmond gave them a motivational speech.

And what was the reason for the emperor's wife leaking that info exactly?

Agreed, it probably would have flowed better with a cliched montage of them being apprehended

GarethSouthpete · 2024-12-11T10:26:12+0000

I must be a fanboy because despite the series failings I can't help but like it

it is a shame that it hasn't received the full treatment though, I do agree with the comments people are making. A low budget affair.

Trying to see if any friends have the SyFy series that I can borrow.

Edit - is this the good/Syfy series https://www.amazon.co.uk/Frank-Herberts-Dune-Winning-Blu-ray/dp/B08JW1JZSY

And is the Children of Dune worth a watch also?

If so, in which order should I watch the above? Are there any others that are with a watch? The older film?

eldergeek · 2024-12-11T12:10:29+0000

GarethSouthpete said:
I must be a fanboy because despite the series failings I can't help but like it it is a shame that it hasn't received the full treatment though, I do agree with the comments people are making. A low budget affair.

Trying to see if any friends have the SyFy series that I can borrow.

Edit - is this the good/Syfy series https://www.amazon.co.uk/Frank-Herberts-Dune-Winning-Blu-ray/dp/B08JW1JZSY

And is the Children of Dune worth a watch also?

If so, in which order should I watch the above? Are there any others that are with a watch? The older film?

I enjoy the children of dune - it's very "of its time" in the way that david lynch's film is. I think you'd enjoy it if you can overlook the bad green screen?

Mint8 · 2024-12-11T17:46:50+0000

Episode 4 was probably the best so far, still not great but at least stuff happened.