E-Scooter discussion after fatal collision

[Energize]

Id suggest reading slightly further in the legislation, you can not just take the first clause in isolation. You need to look at paragraph 1-4 together. You also need to need to consider what an ‘indictable offence’ is, that will have a specific meaning in law.




So, someone assaulting another person and there is no police around to make an arrest -yes. The London Bridge incident is a good example of this.


Someone riding an electric scooter? No, that’s not what the law was intended for. Would you try and make a citizens arrest on someone speeding for instance?

Edit: A driving offence is a summary offence so it’s not ‘indictable’ so this doesn’t apply.

https://www.judiciary.uk/you-and-the-judiciary/going-to-court/magistrates-court/

Clause 3 is satisfied because the perpetrator would abscond when confronted, driving offences may be summary or indictable, depends on how the person is using the e-scooter, merely using one is not an indictable offence but using stupidly powerful motors on them can constitute dangerous driving.

Would I arrest someone for speeding? Depends on the circumstances, i.e. if their driving is actually dangerous or not.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

It’s still not an indictable offence to ride one, the size of the motor is irrelevant and doesn’t constitute dangerous driving on its own.

The police don’t deem it necessary arrest people when they stop them. What makes you think it’s necessary to arrest someone (per clause 3) if the police don’t?

 

[Energize]

It’s still not an indictable offence to ride one, the size of the motor is irrelevant and doesn’t constitute dangerous driving on its own.

The police don’t deem it necessary arrest people when they stop them. What makes you think it’s necessary to arrest someone (per clause 3) if the police don’t?

I don't and never said anything to that effect.

 

[NVP]

I'm sold

 

[Dis86]

That is...charming.

 

[Kelt]

That is...charming.

It's absolutely gorgeous, isn't it.

 

[Energize]

Heavier than an electric bike, much slower, inferior range, terrible handling characteristics and not road legal. Sounds like a bargain.

 

[NVP]

Yeah... but does a bike look like a suitcase?

How about this one then:

 

[Dis86]

I'm not sure what suddenly makes that road legal. Also still looks hinky.

 

[b00merang69]

Ban all E's inc scooters and cigs, both used by n00bs.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

I'm not sure what suddenly makes that road legal. Also still looks hinky.

Just what every environmentally concerned vegan needs to ride to The Blue Oyster Club on biker night.

 

[b00merang69]

Just what every environmentally concerned vegan needs to ride to The Blue Oyster Club on biker night.

They would not go there, they do not eat meat, but they may think it is a good idea to "hide the sausage".

 

[LeMson]

My count approx. 90 in one year.
Your count 7375 in approx. 6 years= approx. 1229 per year.
So I'm boosting???

Sick burn, that should be illegal like these death traps

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Ban all E's inc scooters and cigs, both used by n00bs.

Just to put your statement into perspective I have advanced arthritis, have to use a walking stick and I'm on the waiting list for two new knees.
If I drive to my workplace I have to walk 1 mile from the car park which is a major problem and I can no longer ride my two normal bikes unless I get off and push in certain places which also causes a problem because I'm walking.
An e-Bike is the perfect solution and I never get stuck in traffic on my 4.5 mile commute.
It sounds like you're the n00b.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

They would not go there, they do not eat meat, but they may think it is a good idea to "hide the sausage".

There’s a nice salad bar, so I’m told.

 

[Dis86]

Just to put your statement into perspective I have advanced arthritis, have to use a walking stick and I'm on the waiting list for two new knees.
If I drive to my workplace I have to walk 1 mile from the car park which is a major problem and I can no longer ride my two normal bikes unless I get off and push in certain places which also causes a problem because I'm walking.
An e-Bike is the perfect solution and I never get stuck in traffic on my 4.5 mile commute.
It sounds like you're the n00b.

Dunno that an ebike is the solution, sounds like we need to take you out back and click click bang. It's for the best.

 

[Hotwired]

I'm not sure what suddenly makes that road legal. Also still looks hinky.

The bit where you register it with the DVLA but don't pay any tax because electric.

Which I believe requires the vehicle to pass a checklist of features and ratings for parts which make it suitable for road use.

This looks like it mentions them: https://assets.publishing.service.g...single-vehicle-approval-inspection-manual.pdf

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Dunno that an ebike is the solution, sounds like we need to take you out back and click click bang. It's for the best.

Daft bugger

 

[Dis86]

The bit where you register it with the DVLA but don't pay any tax because electric.

Which I believe requires the vehicle to pass a checklist of features and ratings for parts which make it suitable for road use.

This looks like it mentions them: https://assets.publishing.service.g...single-vehicle-approval-inspection-manual.pdf

So really it's a bike not a scooter, which is what it's advertised as!?

 

[NVP]

It's a scooter like a ped I think.

What is a Scooter?
A scooter, like a moped, usually has a step-through frame

Although this doesn't... hmm...