You really over-estimate how much weight developers give to social media when it comes to actually designing games.
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You really over-estimate how much weight developers give to social media when it comes to actually designing games.
Oh really? Like Tomb Raider? Or Mirrors Edge?
2 great examples of strong female leads loved by the fans and gamers. You have no idea what your talking about.
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And how many of those are accurate and realistic portrayals?
Please define traditional feminism and modern feminism. It sounds like you're both idiots, offence intended.
Or you completely underestimate the amount of attention companies give to fad movements and campaigns.
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Lara Croft was overly sexualised in many of the TR games to appeal to the traditional gaming demographic.
More diverse games = more diverse customer base = more customers = more money. No brainer for developers and publishers.
Nothing to do with social media.
What do you expect from fiction? They write to fit their story, what do you expect as a realistic portrayal? Would you like us to have menstrual cycles every couple of hours in game, characters loose health because of "menstrual cramps"?
Traditional feminism is equality between sexes.
Modern feminism is anti male.
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Social justice warriors, aka left wing oversensitive people who need to jump on a cause to make themselves feel good, won a long time ago. If your game doesn't include every colour and gender, consider yourself a racist and oppressive white person.
She was overly sexualised because of her triangle boobs and hot pants? Kidding right? I see women in town centres wearing less then that.
And you are a traditional feminist right? So why are you getting upset? Females are definitely not over-represented in games. Surely the balance going some way towards equal representation would appeal to a traditional feminist like yourself.
Because you are insinuating that females are currently not represented and they are.
I think you and the other guy have an miss understanding of what fiction is. Fiction is a story written about WHAT EVER THE **** YOU WANT. And just because it doesn't include a black, white, Chinese, 3 boobed Martian women, doesn't mean you have the right to demand change. Just don't read it or play it.
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No, he's saying they are under represented, which they definitely are.
I'm saying they are under-represented. Not that I personally care that much for 50/50 representation, but certainly the scales tipping more that way from the historically massively male-dominated industry is a good thing...if only because I might get the missus playing more games
People have the right to demand whatever they want, free country and all. Do you not see the massive hypocrisy in what you are saying?
"People do not have the right to demand change"
"I demand that games do not have more female representation"
How can you be under represented if the fiction didn't include a female to begin with?
If you want more females, write more female leads. Go make a game about menstrual cycles and transgenders. I hope its a great success, nothing is stopping you.
But don't go into a book club and complain they aren't reading the book you want.
No, because I'm not claiming games shouldn't have female representation.
If a piece of fiction doesn't have a female lead, they shouldn't be forced by fad movements to include one. Its that persons story and how they want to write it, if you don't like it don't read it or go make your own.
You really need to cite your sources. I'm interested to hear these cases where game writers have been told to scrub out male characters and replace them with females.
Of course games with female leads have to be about menstruation. You really are a traditional feminist
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You seem to be suggesting that the genesis for most games are created by writers with a story to tell?
Clearly not the case.
I can count on two hands the amount of games that have had truly meaningful stories.
Stories in games are generally a bit of an afterthought.
Clearly not the case.
I can count on two hands the amount of games that have had truly meaningful stories.
Stories in games are generally a bit of an afterthought.
You really need to cite your sources. I'm interested to hear these cases where game writers have been told to scrub out male characters and replace them with females.
Of course games with female leads have to be about menstruation. You really are a traditional feminist
There is the famous case of the Mighty Number 9, Mega Man spin off which was funded by kickstarter and destroyed by a feminazi because the main character was a man.
From 25+ years of gaming, i can tell you that your very wrong.
A game starts with a story, otherwise you have nothing to draw upon for inspiration.
Mighty Number 9 has had a very successful kickstarter and is targeted for release on September 15th.
I must be missing something.