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E6750, not impressed

Might be lucky -ish got another A 6750 thats doing 3.52Ghz on 1.4v, so far with a Tuniq tower its about 45C loaded on Orthos, so about 60C real, just hoping for a warm day to really see the temps, this is on the lowest fan setting mind.. so with a better fan i can prolly expect quieter and better cooling. This ones running 440Mhz easily.
 
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Regarding the article, it's interesting to see an FSB wall around 415. I wonder whether GTL Ref Voltage tweaks that are available on some boards would help overcome that.
 
I've called my local store and they have said that I can go in an hand pick a CPU - stoked.

Does anyone know if there are any other E6750 variants other than A and B stepping and if they have any other performance issues. I'm almost tempted to cough the extra £40-£50 for the Quad...
 
According to CPU-Z, "GO" is not the stepping, its the Revision, and "B" is the Stepping.

I came from AMD so I am not FAM with Intels codes, but I would hazzard a guess the makers of CPU-Z know what they are doing.
 
helmutcheese said:
According to CPU-Z, "GO" is not the stepping, its the Revision, and "B" is the Stepping.

I came from AMD so I am not FAM with Intels codes, but I would hazzard a guess the makers of CPU-Z know what they are doing.
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Everyone i know refers to it as the Stepping, B3 was the stepping before and any other chip made after is referred to as a revision of that stepping until the next one, that makes more sense to me.

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cach...on_numbers)+stepping&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk


Stepping is a designation used by Intel and AMD to identify how much the design of a microprocessor has advanced from the original design. The stepping is identified by a combination of a letter and a number.

Typically, the first version of a microprocessor comes out with stepping A0. As design improvements occur, later versions are identified by changes in the letter and number. Changes in the number (for example, A3) indicate minor design changes, whilst changes to both the letter and number are made following more extensive changes (for example, B2). Stepping allows consumers and servicers to identify a microprocessor's version.
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Thus as you can see G0 is the first of the stepping 'G', making a program that reads cpu values does not make you an expert in cpus.
 
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I know this is an unpopular point of view, however....

The chips are rated at a certain speed, you're buying them (presumably) because you want a chip that runs at x speed. Buying one and then bemoaning the fact it doesn't do over 1Ghz higher than its rated speed seems a bit bizarre, as does questioning whether it would be possible to send it back because it "doesn't overclock as much as you like".

If the chip was rated for 3.4Ghz it would be sold (and priced) as a 3.4Ghz. What extra we get from these chips when overclocking is just luck of the draw, and we can't expect anything else really.
 
Yep anything extra is pie, returning a cpu cause it don't clock well is not a valid reason, unless it was sold and advertised as a good clocker, even then the variables such as board, memory etc.. used can give false bad result. Though i see why people would do it ;)
 
Durzel said:
I know this is an unpopular point of view, however....

The chips are rated at a certain speed, you're buying them (presumably) because you want a chip that runs at x speed. Buying one and then bemoaning the fact it doesn't do over 1Ghz higher than its rated speed seems a bit bizarre, as does questioning whether it would be possible to send it back because it "doesn't overclock as much as you like".

If the chip was rated for 3.4Ghz it would be sold (and priced) as a 3.4Ghz. What extra we get from these chips when overclocking is just luck of the draw, and we can't expect anything else really.
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Fair comment - you are correct. From a consumer point of view the reason I purchased my processor is not for it's base advertised capability but for its reported massive overclocking ability. Whilst you are entirely correct that Intel have never directly marketed their CPUs at anything other than their labeled clock speed, they have made sure that any reviewer of the processors have a hand picked 'stonker' of an overclocker. In my eyes this seems like Intel are relying on the reported OC potential to sell more of their processors, and whether it be poorly placed expectation on my behalf or not, I did expect some decent headroom out of the E6750.

As an overclocker it was my failure to do the research first and then ensure that I got the same revision of the processor that the successful overclockers have had in hand. Intel do not go out of their way to discourage overclocking and in my opinion directly encourage it through their distribution of review hardware. In an ideal world I would like them to be accountable for at least clear labelling of their processors as 'good overclockers' and 'average overclockers' but we just don't live in that world and I got delt a bad hand. Time to fold and wait for the next hand ;)
 
Way i see it is they cherry pick the absolute cream of the crop for review sites and of course they overclock like mad. We get all hyped up expecting super oc's on low low volts etc.. as a norm and get severly dissapointed when the actual retail product dosen't quite live up to expectation :D I've yet to have or even see an E6750 that could do the volts at the clocks my L629B can do, granted its a great chip, even for its revision but i thought they'd be more like it in the G0 chips. I've had one of the 29B chips at 4Ghz with a 100CFM fan and Ultra Extreme at 1.5v :D Rock solid in orthos and 3D, only thing holding me from running this 24/7 is i value my hearing and the temps were still on the high side at 72C TAT load and generally not into water or phase anymore :D
 
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Justintime said:
Way i see it is they cherry pick the absolute cream of the crop...
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LOL I'm sure that there are grounds for some sort of a fair trading or misrepresentation suite there somewhere :D

I know what the reality is, but hey, dreams are free...
 
What cooling? What're u using to measure the temps and are you adding 15C to the reading? If you're using the motherboards utility its wrong as it won't read directly from the core, use coretemp or intel TAT and add 15C to the read results.
 
Is there a database on steppings anywhere?

Can't find much on mine, its a L723A400.



Haven't had a chance to try it yet, gotta leak test my water loop and then install windows first :D
 
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