Ebola scaremongering?

When I broke (well shattered)my shin I was given every none opiate under the sun until they gave in and gave me some morphine derivative. That was about half an hour before I found out I was allergic to it :D worst day ever!
 
Would be nice if they vaccinated everyone paying 20% or higher income tax, and left everyone else to die :D
 
Xordium said:
There is no excuse for any patient to be in pain for any amount of time in this day and age. It's that simple. If someone is that broken that they need opiates off the scale then you will knock them out that much with that opiate that they would be ventilated anyway and therefore paralysed and fully sedated. This is why we let patients (where we can) control their opiates using a button (which when pressed gives a dose), if they were to have too much they would pass out and not press the button again. It's a lot safer and people use less pain control because they actually have the power.

In the case of the discussed hydration would be met therefore the problems associated with fluid depletion would be negated, respiratory support would be given to tackle the shortness of breathe you would find and suitable analgesia would take care of the chest pain. Naturally what you can't get rid of is the fear.

With modern facilities and clued up staff you would not see the fatality rate the media loves bandying about. Before some smart arse decides to point out the fatality in Germany then I would respectfully point out there is a big difference between the loading dosage of virus one would expect to get from an infected contact and a contaminated syringe directly entering the blood supply.
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I wish I could believe that were true, my experience would indicate that healthcare professionals tend to be very stingy with pain treatment. I was only reading at the weekend that it turns out that paracetamol is no good for treating back pain and yet that's how they've been treating patients for decades.
 
I said quite clearly there was 'no excuse' and you said 'competent. Do you seriously think in this country it would be the likes of someone with my skillset supervising or a dodgy GP who has shuffled into the country from godknows where.

And people shoudn't have been treating backpain with paracetamol ever a more prudent choice would be a NSAID as it would tackle the likely inflammatory response far better than paracetamol would possibly with a synergistic opiate if the pain was beyond that level. There is an argument that most back pain should not be medicated strongly anyway because it encourages people to continue the practices that messed them up in the first place.

I should also clarify there is a big difference between acute pain caused by a known factor - which we are discussing here - and chronic pain that will have more potential for mismanagement, failure, etc. We are talking about ebola not recurrent problems after someone has fallen of their bike and that was the context in which I answered the question.
 
LateX'Dog said:
Seriously? How old are you? :confused:
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My age is irrelevant to the discussion.

You posted an article with obvious untruths and blatant scaremongering. This is what the thread is about.

You also have a known history on this forum of putting forward quite a few tinfoil hat ideas.

Hence, I am not shocked that someone who has a history of posting articles lacking in substance but loaded with sensationalism does exactly that again.

Quite simple.

Anyway don't worry the chances of ebola causing you problems are very minimal. Let's face it it will be very easy for Australia to quarantine themselves due to their geography.
 
Xordium said:
I said quite clearly there was 'no excuse' and you said 'competent. Do you seriously think in this country it would be the likes of someone with my skillset supervising or a dodgy GP who has shuffled into the country from godknows where.
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Out of interest can you recommend any competent GP's in the Lancashire area? Private or NHS.
 
Sorry haven't got a clue about that sort of thing. My suggestion is go to your local GP surgery (well all of them) and sit down in the waiting area of a Monday morning. Listen to the old dears. They will all say oh glad I got him or her or that one is useless. They use the service the most they know - follow their lead! That's what I do.
 
Lol I might just try that.

I've tried a few though at my practice and have been alarmed by the comments I've received often when seeing a doctor for an unrelated condition, such as "Pregabalin for anxiety!", "This medication should only be used short term" (When I'm only given a few tablets a month, or said in reference to medications designed for long term use), "All antidepressants cause x side effect" and the classic "We don't have anything stronger than codeine". Sometimes I have difficulty steering the conversation to the condition I'm actually seeing that particular doctor for!

I really am at a loss for the words sometimes, the standard of care seems so poor with the lack of basic knowledge and even lying to patients.
 
There are five known species of Ebola virus: Bundibugyo ebolavirus; Zaire ebolavirus; Reston ebolavirus; Sudan ebolavirus; and Taï Forest ebolavirus. All but the Reston strain can be fatal to humans and all but the Reston strain are found in Africa.

Until recently, the Zaire strain of Ebola was thought to be behind the current outbreak, with the US Centres for Disease Control (CDC) noting a 98% match between the West African and Zaire strains. The Zaire strain of Ebola is the most deadly: it attacks all organs in the body, including the skin, and can have a fatality rate of up to 90%. Since its first appearance – and excluding the current outbreak in West Africa – the strain has killed 1,098 of the 1,388 people it has infected, an average case fatality rate of 79%.

However, a team of experts studying the West African strain reported in the New England Journal of Medicine recently that the Guinea outbreak is a new strain of the virus: though closely related to Zaire ebolavirus, the current strain is endemic to West Africa and developed parallel to the central African ebolavirus strain. According to the team's investigation, the strain's outbreak can be traced to the death of a two-year-old child in Gueckedou on December 6 last year.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201407281723.html

A new strain they think, Is it possible for it to become airborne or is it already.
 
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Traffic_Warden said:
So the first case of Ebola Virus was in 1976, but there is still no vaccine or treatment now?
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I could be completely wrong but as I understand it theres many variations within each strain. It mutates too quickly to create a viable vaccine.

I think flu shots are based on the previous years influenza as such theres absolutely no guarantee it will even be effective against the next flu season.

I also imagine the countries that have the big money needed to throw at research dont bother as its not one that affect them. I dont know when the last ebola outbreak in a "1st world" country was, theres not much incentive to spend money on it.
 
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