Previously I only watched it for the Cameron-Brown/Blair clash but I found myself taking a much greater interest in seeing how Cameron deals with the back-benchers. He's in a completely different league to Milliband.
Ed Millibands lisp...
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Previously I only watched it for the Cameron-Brown/Blair clash but I found myself taking a much greater interest in seeing how Cameron deals with the back-benchers. He's in a completely different league to Milliband.
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Labour spend all the money, Conservatives punish the poor, Labour spend all the money, Conservatives punish the poor, rinse and repeat until WW3 or global Peace/domination.
At the end of the day no matter how "conservative" we are we are never going to compete with emerging economies especially China who treat their people like dirt which is where most of our business is lost. Sure with lower tax etc we are more competative with the likes of Germany, Japan, USA, France etc but they are in debt also.
So really it comes down to being as moral as possible without the country going bankrupt. Labour and Conservatives achieve neither.
We need something a bit more sustainable and logical.
My take on polotics anyway. Starfighter for President.
At the end of the day no matter how "conservative" we are we are never going to compete with emerging economies especially China who treat their people like dirt which is where most of our business is lost. Sure with lower tax etc we are more competative with the likes of Germany, Japan, USA, France etc but they are in debt also.
So really it comes down to being as moral as possible without the country going bankrupt. Labour and Conservatives achieve neither.
We need something a bit more sustainable and logical.
My take on polotics anyway. Starfighter for President.
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You mean Prime Minister?
He is still a politician firstly and foremost.
No i just watched a couple of youtube vids too.
This really:
Lisp? I thought he just had a 'sinus' sounding voice
Need you ask.
Because he’s a jolly good fellow and more importantly appears to be doing an extremely hard job very well. We have a breath of fresh air after years of stagnation.
You sound like a housewife who's had one too many beatings.
David Cameron just runs circles round the guy, almost makes me feel sorry for him........almost
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I feel sorry for him. Ed Milli has been an MP for 4 years. He was a minister of a wishy-washy department. He's now shadow PM - it is a big ask.
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Fallen back on failed ideologies which have been comprehensively defeated intellectually and defeated democratically by the voters?
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It was more rhetorical, say it back to yourself but more with a what have they done tone.
I wonder which failed ideology it is you speak of. There isn't a ball hair between Labour and Conservatives on the whole.
The sooner they boot him out and get David in, the better. I hate to say it, but I knew this was going to happen from the moment Ed announced his candidacy.
I knew that Ed would somehow manage to market himself as a leader that was not part of the New Labour establishment, that the Labour party would succumb to their persistent desire to move the party back into the state it was before Tony Blair modernised it... And guess what, he has succeeded... Or has he?
Ed is a shocking speaker, and despite pulling off a very good performance in his first exchange with David Cameron (something which took me by surprise), he has been beaten like a wet fish in every exchange since. I see what people mean when they talk about the lisp, but my gripe is the fact he sounds like his nose is permanently blocked. All of these things do genuinely matter when when how you say something is often as important as what you say.
His shadow cabinet is a sterling example of his weakness within the Labour party ranks. His choice of shadow chancellor is beyond ridiculous, when he had two exceptionally capable economists in the form of Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper. Ed's choice of Alan Johnson demonstrates that he would not hold any influence over decisions that Ed or Yvette would make.
I can't wait to see the headline, 'BIG BROTHER MILIBAND RETURNS!" and returns to beat Cameron around like a wet fish.
EDIT: Another point is that Ed appears to be telling different groups what they want to hear. For example, the speech he made to the Labour party conference informing them that the era of New Labour was over, but told the CBI conference that, essentially, it wasn't.
I knew that Ed would somehow manage to market himself as a leader that was not part of the New Labour establishment, that the Labour party would succumb to their persistent desire to move the party back into the state it was before Tony Blair modernised it... And guess what, he has succeeded... Or has he?
Ed is a shocking speaker, and despite pulling off a very good performance in his first exchange with David Cameron (something which took me by surprise), he has been beaten like a wet fish in every exchange since. I see what people mean when they talk about the lisp, but my gripe is the fact he sounds like his nose is permanently blocked. All of these things do genuinely matter when when how you say something is often as important as what you say.
His shadow cabinet is a sterling example of his weakness within the Labour party ranks. His choice of shadow chancellor is beyond ridiculous, when he had two exceptionally capable economists in the form of Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper. Ed's choice of Alan Johnson demonstrates that he would not hold any influence over decisions that Ed or Yvette would make.
I can't wait to see the headline, 'BIG BROTHER MILIBAND RETURNS!" and returns to beat Cameron around like a wet fish.
EDIT: Another point is that Ed appears to be telling different groups what they want to hear. For example, the speech he made to the Labour party conference informing them that the era of New Labour was over, but told the CBI conference that, essentially, it wasn't.
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If he was that good why didn't he have a word with Flash Gordon in his flights of mentalness in the treasury?
Whoooo... that's the audience reaction in the face of your awesomeness. Be proud.
All I'll say is that he has a first class P.P.E. degree from Oxford, and has worked as the chief economic adviser to the treasury. He's probably in a better position to answer that than either of us are.
If he was that good why did the Labour party not recognise what you apparently do now and replace Gordon with Ed from word go?
And not end up in this laughable and unelectable position now?
What does Gordon's CV read like? Because it didn't stop him becoming an abject failure did it?