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FA reform: Former chiefs say 'elderly white men' block change

Why does the BBC think this is appropriate? I guarantee that if someone said "young black men" or "middle aged chinese women" were to blame for something, the BBC would be foaming at the bit to make this an issue of racism. The person saying it would be taking a hot poker up their backside until they apologised for being an evil racist bigot.

And on that note, why is diversity for the sake of diversity even a good thing? Aren't we meant to be living in a post racial world? If people keeping pushing the race agenda, all they're going to do is continue to disillusion those of us who were brought up being told to ignore the colour of someone's skin.

The Western media and establishment is becoming increasingly hostile to the very people who make it work. Very strange and sad times.
 
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BBC have political correctness and diversity stuffed up their backsides. They're afraid to offend the hedgehog living at the bottom of your garden.
 
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Preaching to the converted though aren't they, that comment would be lapped up by a huge number of BBC fans. and Guardian readers.
 
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they probably are confusing an elderly and experienced generation trying to preserve the status quo, with the statistics that they tend to be white and male in positions of power (presumably because the time when they rose to power it helped to be a white man).

in 70 years time it'll be "elderly humans block change" and the alien/sapient robots will be up in arms about how speciesist it is
 
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BBC have political correctness and diversity stuffed up their backsides. They're afraid to offend the hedgehog living at the bottom of your garden.

So true.

BBC News used to be my go to news source but it's just getting ridiculous now.

And the comments on the articles are always 'Leavers' saying that Brexit will fix all of this!

"This wouldn't have happened if we weren't in the EU! HARD BREXIT!!"
 
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The media know they can get away with it as us elderly white men just mutter something rude and carry on with our lives.

Now, if we got all stabby or explodey like other demographics are prone to when insulted, the likes of the BBC and The Guardian might back off a little.
 
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Why does the BBC think this is appropriate? I guarantee that if someone said "young black men" or "middle aged chinese women" were to blame for something, the BBC would be foaming at the bit to make this an issue of racism. The person saying it would be taking a hot poker up their backside until they apologised for being an evil racist bigot.

And on that note, why is diversity for the sake of diversity even a good thing? Aren't we meant to be living in a post racial world? If people keeping pushing the race agenda, all they're going to do is continue to disillusion those of us who were brought up being told to ignore the colour of someone's skin.

The Western media and establishment is becoming increasingly hostile to the very people who make it work. Very strange and sad times.

Only white people are racist.
 
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I think you need to understand the history of discrimination, whether that be examples like slavery or social segregation against coloureds or not having the right to vote for women to realise why positive discrimination actually became a thing.

It's also not a condition that 'diversity for diversities sake' is a good thing, I think we can all agree meritocracy is generally the best way forward.

Also though, diversity isn't just about the colour of someones skin, but the experience they bring to the position about the different cultures, which in certain organisations, say like the Police, is a good thing to have.

But as you allude to, we already have a multicultural society and you would think that if meritocracy was already the driving force for promotion, then the upper echelons would now naturally be showing the same level of diversity

But time and time again we can look at the upper echeleons and see a disproportionate number of 'old white men' so it's showing that other factors are still in play, generally the old boys network and entrenched sexism with yes, racial discrimination.
 
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Busily shoot the messenger as much as you like but a council of 120 people comprised 80% of white men over 60 is not in touch with a sport played by young people of both sexes and every background.
 
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Dyke told the BBC:

FA meetings "bear no resemblance to Britain today"
Only four FA Council members out of 120 are from ethnic minority backgrounds
Only six FA Council members are women
That 10% of members are aged over 80
That 80% of members are aged over 60

Ignoring the rest lets focus on the last point. Does it make sense that over 80% are people who are well past being able to play the game to a reasonable level.
Does it not make more sense that the governing body for a game has representation from a decent percentage of people of a playing age that will find it much easier to relate to those playing the game in parks, on sports grounds, at semi professional level, and at the top level across the whole of the UK, week in and week out?
 
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The media know they can get away with it as us elderly white men just mutter something rude and carry on with our lives.

Now, if we got all stabby or explodey like other demographics are prone to when insulted, the likes of the BBC and The Guardian might back off a little.

Comment of the week. Lol
 
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I think you need to understand the history of discrimination, whether that be examples like slavery or social segregation against coloureds or not having the right to vote for women to realise why positive discrimination actually became a thing.

It's also not a condition that 'diversity for diversities sake' is a good thing, I think we can all agree meritocracy is generally the best way forward.

Also though, diversity isn't just about the colour of someones skin, but the experience they bring to the position about the different cultures, which in certain organisations, say like the Police, is a good thing to have.

But as you allude to, we already have a multicultural society and you would think that if meritocracy was already the driving force for promotion, then the upper echelons would now naturally be showing the same level of diversity

But time and time again we can look at the upper echeleons and see a disproportionate number of 'old white men' so it's showing that other factors are still in play, generally the old boys network and entrenched sexism with yes, racial discrimination.

Yeah that's because to get to the upper echelons it takes years of experience, why would you expect that diversity to just immediately filter to the top?
 
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If a group of elderly white men who have worked as head of the FA all agree that the number of elderly white men in the upper echelons of the FA is something that has an actual negative effect, then perhaps we should listen to them. If even they can see it, then maybe there is truly an issue.

Or maybe it's just the media picking on the poor put-upon elderly white man. They have it tough, those guys.
 
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Yeah that's because to get to the upper echelons it takes years of experience, why would you expect that diversity to just immediately filter to the top?

I wouldn't expect it to 'immediately' happen. How long have we been a multicultural society?

Taking that in a modern definition of the sense (since our whole history has been one of migrants/invasions) it's easily been since the 50-60's
 
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Dyke told the BBC:

FA meetings "bear no resemblance to Britain today"
Only four FA Council members out of 120 are from ethnic minority backgrounds
Only six FA Council members are women
That 10% of members are aged over 80
That 80% of members are aged over 60

Ignoring the rest lets focus on the last point. Does it make sense that over 80% are people who are well past being able to play the game to a reasonable level.
Does it not make more sense that the governing body for a game has representation from a decent percentage of people of a playing age that will find it much easier to relate to those playing the game in parks, on sports grounds, at semi professional level, and at the top level across the whole of the UK, week in and week out?

Football is not a sport anymore it's a lucrative money making business.
 
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Yeah that's because to get to the upper echelons it takes years of experience, why would you expect that diversity to just immediately filter to the top?

Well, since the performance of the FA is, per its last few chairmen, suffering due to the numbers of elderly white men at the top, perhaps we should expect the organisation to be actively adjusting its demographic make up. Ergo, we should expect that they would have already made strides to correct this imbalance.
 
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