Elderly White Men

dirtychinchilla · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:13

cheesyboy said:
The group of former FA chairmen explicitly believe that the FA being substantially old, white, and male is causing the FA to make bad decisions.

That's what this is all about

Which they may well be, because they lack the benefits of youth, and the benefits of being, as a group, from different cultures.

wildman · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:13

Tunney said:
The BBC isn't allowed to report the news now? As already pointed out, they were quoting a former chief of the FA.

The faux outrage every time someone mentions old white males is so tiresome.

And no-one here can even say that the FA are simply hiring people on ability (the usual excuse when diversity is raised). The FA is a failed organisation.

yep, just like FIFA, the FA is a wind bag full of hot air and jobs for the boys.

cheesyboy · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:14

Roar87 said:
Ok? And I'm saying that's not the case in the same way that being Black doesn't mean make you bad or good at something.

Well, it's good that we have an expert in here.

Those ex-FA chairmen don't know ****. I guess that's why they're all 'ex' chairmen, eh?

Tunney · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:14

Roar87 said:
The FA have made mistakes, but nothing about their mistakes is caused by being white or old. Unless you feel that being old and white makes you prone to bad decisions?

Judges are forced to retire at 70 these days. Being senile can definitely cause people to make bad decisions.

robgmun · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:17

chief barker said:
Only white people are racist.

BBC are hypocrites then. Weren't they complaining about the treatment older newscasters were getting last year... you know...the BBC's bunch of Old White Men (and Women)?

wildman · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:19

robgmun said:
BBC are hypocrites then. Weren't they complaining about the treatment older newscasters were getting last year... you know...the BBC's bunch of Old White Men (and Women)?

The BBC didn't make this statement, they were simply reporting on what the likes of Dyke et. al. said. If you have a beef with what was said it's the ex chairmen you need to call out not the BBC this time

Roar87 · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:20

cheesyboy said:
Well, it's good that we have an expert in here.

Those ex-FA chairmen don't know ****. I guess that's why they're all 'ex' chairmen, eh?

I'm not sure being a chairman on football board makes you any more qualified than me to suggest being White and old makes you inferior at a job.

Is it ok for me to say that the female managers at my job are **** because they're female? No?

Tunney said:
Judges are forced to retire at 70 these days. Being senile can definitely cause people to make bad decisions.

Yeah being old CAN cause that, but my Grandad is in his 70's and still sharper and more intelligent than most people, I still consult his advice on a lot of things, he's just less physically able than he used to be. There are people in their 50's I know who seem to be losing it each passing year.

twist3d0n3 · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:23

wildman said:
The BBC didn't make this statement, they were simply reporting on what the likes of Dyke et. al. said. If you have a beef with what was said it's the ex chairmen you need to call out not the BBC this time

must be easy for a guy who's in that demographic to complain about it when his job isn't affected, eh.

wildman · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:27

twist3d0n3 said:
must be easy for a guy who's in that demographic to complain about it when his job isn't affected, eh.

I think Dyke quit because he couldn't / wasn't given any help in trying to actually reform the FA while he was there. So maybe he is / was one of the good guys ? In the grand scheme of things the FA is almost an irrelevance now as the EPL likely carries way more clout now due to the money it can pull to the UK than the FA ever could.

Tunney · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:28

Roar87 said:
Yeah being old CAN cause that, but my Grandad is in his 70's and still sharper and more intelligent than most people, I still consult his advice on a lot of things, he's just less physically able than he used to be. There are people in their 50's I know who seem to be losing it each passing year.

The arbitrary limit of 70 was set so that people didn't have to have that difficult and humiliating "we're forcing you to retire because you're losing your marbles" conversation. It might have negative consequences but it's the lesser of two evils.

Tosno · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:30

Elderly white men you rock! Making used car salesmen cry since the silent generation.

Tosno · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:33

Tunney said:
The arbitrary limit of 70 was set so that people didn't have to have that difficult and humiliating "we're forcing you to retire because you're losing your marbles" conversation. It might have negative consequences but it's the lesser of two evils.

Trump is 70 and he is amazing. It would not be the lesser of two evils if such a great POTUS had to stop MAGA :cool:

Roar87 · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:33

Of the 232 English Premier League players, 80 are black (or 34.48 per cent). Around 2 per cent of the general British population is black.

I take it this isn't a problem?

twist3d0n3 · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:34

Roar87 said:
Of the 232 English Premier League players, 80 are black (or 34.48 per cent). Around 2 per cent of the general British population is black.

I take it this isn't a problem?

wew lad

DrToffnar · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:34

A lot of bitter old white men on the forums today/always.

Schlong&Stable · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:34

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
So the BBC quoting people is the BBCs issue?

No. The issue is how eagerly they turn a spotlight on "old white men", when if the same criticism had been levelled about non-whites, their narrative would be "this person is a racist or bigot" or at the very least "this black person criticising fellow blacks is a total rogue value and here is a dozen articles proving why blacks are great".

The issue is the narrative. And the BBC's narrative is anti-British.

Roar87 · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:37

DrToffnar said:
A lot of bitter old white men on the forums today/always.

This is certainly a problem, why are there not more Young Black Females interested in overclocking computers and playing PC games? Where's the diversity damn it?!

Schlong&Stable · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:38

cheesyboy said:
The group of former FA chairmen explicitly believe that the FA being substantially old, white, and male is causing the FA to make bad decisions.

That's what this is all about

Why would their being white be a factor? This is textbook racism. And I don't give a hoot that a white person is the one saying it, one can be racist against their own race after all.

I personally fail to see why a nation which is overwhelmingly white needs to explicitly pursue a racially diversification agenda? The best people for the job should get it, irrespective of skin colour.

Pudney · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:38

Roar87 said:
I'm not sure being a chairman on football board makes you any more qualified than me to suggest being White and old makes you inferior at a job.

Perhaps it does make them more qualified to say whether these particular people are an issue. Perhaps these people are actually close to the stereotype being used. Perhaps your righteous indignation is wrong. I don't know the answer to any of that, just as I don't know any of the life vice-presidents who apparently block any changes put forth no matter how minor.

Tosno · 12 Dec 2016 at 13:39

Roar87 said:
This is certainly a problem, why are there not more Young Black Females interested in overclocking computers and playing PC games? Where's the diversity damn it?!

Why is there no black female hotties in the Christmas hotties thread? Such racism.