They have brought 3 coal fired stations out of mothballs (due to be scrapped last sept but then kept).with the snow/temps outside - UK's doing well on peak electric/gas
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living our best energy consumption
They have brought 3 coal fired stations out of mothballs (due to be scrapped last sept but then kept).with the snow/temps outside - UK's doing well on peak electric/gas
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living our best energy consumption
At least as big for many is that they either rent, or can't be certain how long they'll be in their current house. It's much easier to drop the money if you expect to be in the house for say 5-10+ years, but if your job doesn't feel secure or you might need to move it's much harder.All this solar stuff and electric vehicles is good and all, but it feels like the majority of people will not be able to afford to drop 10-15k on solar panels, or god knows how many thousands on a new EV. It's looking fairly unobtainable for most people.
good point on the rentals. 1 thing i thought about, dunno if viable but given most people accept solar pays for itself after 10 years or so.....At least as big for many is that they either rent, or can't be certain how long they'll be in their current house. It's much easier to drop the money if you expect to be in the house for say 5-10+ years, but if your job doesn't feel secure or you might need to move it's much harder.
I've noticed in my street there are people that have been here for 10+ years and have no intention of moving (some have been here for 25+ years), whilst other houses seem to change hands every 2-5 years.
certainly can in the app (iOS)Just joined Octopus website seems nice but you really can't view your energy usage in £?
certainly can in the app (iOS)
can flip between KWH & estimated cost
i have the android app and never noticed the option to flip..... am gonna look now!.certainly can in the app (iOS)
can flip between KWH & estimated cost
At least as big for many is that they either rent, or can't be certain how long they'll be in their current house. It's much easier to drop the money if you expect to be in the house for say 5-10+ years, but if your job doesn't feel secure or you might need to move it's much harder.
I've noticed in my street there are people that have been here for 10+ years and have no intention of moving (some have been here for 25+ years), whilst other houses seem to change hands every 2-5 years.
There really needs to be an incentive/requirement to have solar fitted with refurbs and all new rebuilds/extensions with a suitable roof imo, as from what I understand the cost of the panels if fitted during say the roofing stage isn't massively more than the cost of just tiling, especially if they're the panels you fit instead of the tiles.This is why I do not have solar.
If I was in this house 15 years to forever. I'd have it already. But with plan being 3 years max it's a definite no.
Don't know how the typical 'first home' will ever see solar if its not a new build with them already on.
good point on the rentals. 1 thing i thought about, dunno if viable but given most people accept solar pays for itself after 10 years or so.....
my wife's flat is going to need a full reroofing in the next few years. if a company wanted to (octopus seem the most progressive on such ideas) install solar panels on our flat new roof I would not mind. if they covered the cost and any maintanence I would have no problem them taking all the energy generated for the 1st 10-15 years. (they would need to be responsible for its disposal afterwards too).
given as a long term proposition solar is universally accepted to more than pay for ittself i see no downside to them.
Yep this is the issue with solar, it will take a while to payback. Thats never going to change however.
Jury is out for now on how much value will carry over.
For sure some, but the real value will be decided by expected future energy costs and not install cost.
It also depends on what you can afford. I dare say some people here spend a lot of money on frivolous things (which they're entitled to!) - which if was saved could easily pay for solar. However I appreciate that 10k+ is not an insignificant amount of cash for people. However there is that immediate benefit of your bills coming down which psychologically has a really nice impact.
Even if we decide to move next year (we won't unless we decide to leave the UK) I don't feel it's a waste as a) you can take your inverter / batteries if you really want, b) it could potentially add value to your home c) it's the right thing to do anyway!
It also depends on what you can afford. I dare say some people here spend a lot of money on frivolous things (which they're entitled to!) - which if was saved could easily pay for solar. However I appreciate that 10k+ is not an insignificant amount of cash for people. However there is that immediate benefit of your bills coming down which psychologically has a really nice impact.
Even if we decide to move next year (we won't unless we decide to leave the UK) I don't feel it's a waste as a) you can take your inverter / batteries if you really want, b) it could potentially add value to your home c) it's the right thing to do anyway!
But when it's 10k(+)..thats an expensive "right thing to do".
There's no real information on how it affects house prices. It wasn't long ago it was detrimental (that's what it seemed)
10k is well out the price point for I'd say? What.. 90pc of people?
With cost of living crisis, job security, dumping 10k is not something many could do.
Technically I could. But it just isn't viable. Also, Can easily see paying up on for next year a government scheme to come out to massively help that miss out on. Our you pay, lose your job and really need that 10k
Is incredibly hard to commit to even in good incomes.
It was detrimental when they were not owned was the feeling.
Because you in effect didn't have full control over your own roof.
As ever hastle meant people would look at a house without panels vs one with if they were not owned.
Also energy was cheap. The sheer number of people now asking me about panels at work makes me think that even the less than perfect non owned model would actually now be a positive as opposed to a negative.
maybe it is just me but (aside from the fact i would want to buy panels for any house i live in so there is that....) but in principle i would have no issue buying a house with panels on even if i didnt get the benefit.Thinking about it the only way I'd accept it right now (knowing I'm moving in 3 years) is if it was done for free but I reaped none of the benefits. But then selling could be an issue. Who wants to inherit a house with solar they can't benefit from? Just too many variables
Is a very difficult nut to crack.