Agile won't help much come winter time when the real time prices shoot upWho says I use them in the summer
Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)
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Agile won't help much come winter time when the real time prices shoot up
Ahh boo hiss!!
Well only three weeks and the solar panels go in. Hope that helps!
So....I've noticed in the last 2-3 weeks that our combined Gas and Electric usage has gone down by about a pound a day on our internal IHD. We've taken heating into account and we differently haven't changed what we do on a daily basis. Usually, we use slightly over £7 per day and now it's much closer to £6 and on some days it doesn't even reach that! Unless Octopus has changed our pricing without telling us not sure what's going on?!
I feel reluctant to talk to Octopus about it because maybe it's a glitch on their end and we're taking advantage of it
We just got a new bill for the last 30 days and it's definitely dropped. It's gone from £200ish a month to £180
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So....I've noticed in the last 2-3 weeks that our combined Gas and Electric usage has gone down by about a pound a day on our internal IHD. We've taken heating into account and we differently haven't changed what we do on a daily basis. Usually, we use slightly over £7 per day and now it's much closer to £6 and on some days it doesn't even reach that! Unless Octopus has changed our pricing without telling us not sure what's going on?!
I feel reluctant to talk to Octopus about it because maybe it's a glitch on their end and we're taking advantage of it
We just got a new bill for the last 30 days and it's definitely dropped. It's gone from £200ish a month to £180
Just look at kWh used.
Soldato
Agile won't help much come winter time when the real time prices shoot up
Yer i expect this is a fairly short term use for me before height of summer (heat last year) and cold of winter.
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Soldato
IHD doesn't always have accurate prices, but even if it does, if you're using less then you pay less.
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I've come to the conclusion the IHD (SmartView2) is pointless for any accurate costings on Agile. I do wish there was a dashboard which showed not only consumption but also cost per 30 min increments but I've not found that on the Agile account site. I'll assume you can get at that type of data via the API but I've not a clue how.
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Octopus Compare again.
this guys site is good - so can see how much agile is during dinner cooking period and other times (ran it over last 3 months V) - personally would 'only' save about 50p/day, for 3 units we use outside dinner period
( can also see that last year sep-nov dinner period avg was 56p - so if that repeated this year I'd probably jump ship )
Soldato
Interesting; I did take a gander at this site earlier and I guess it is good for average household indicators. I'll take a look at the Octopus Compare app, which may give me what I was after. Thanks.
e: Unless I'm missing something Octopus Compare seems to be just that, comparing tariffs. I was after a personalised chart / plot / whatever showing my household costs along with the 30min consumption usage.
e: I stand corrected, I think this app does, assuming it plugs in my data.
e: Unless I'm missing something Octopus Compare seems to be just that, comparing tariffs. I was after a personalised chart / plot / whatever showing my household costs along with the 30min consumption usage.
e: I stand corrected, I think this app does, assuming it plugs in my data.
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Soldato
Yes you can, you need to change Octopus to using Variable DD instead of estimated, this is how I pay them.
If you can't edit this, you may need to ask them to edit it for you.
Make sure you got/used a referral code when you switched, it gives you £50 bill credit as well as to the one who refers you, it's not too late to apply it on the online portal even if you've already started the process of switching.
On the payments screen it shows this for me:
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to maximise benefit from either Agile or Tracker, personally don't see much scope to move moderate energy consuming activities around during the week;
meal time 4-7pm consumption is pretty fixed; washing machine - can't postpone that for days waiting for a zero price agile option like last saturday, other use kettles/toasters/breakfast/ tv|media in evening - fixed too.
hence I think average unit price for tracker, or agile average(during both 4-7pm slot and, the rest) sums up those products.
The (new) 9 month option to return to tracker if you quit, also seems like it will be a dilema,
average price over last 6 months 30p ish, unless you had presence of mind to quit for the couple of 2-3 week period where it peaked in 50/70p region,
and then rejoin a month later, in which case you'd be averaging nearer 20
Soldato
Well, I only joined Agile last week but in fairness, aside from a few slight changes when running the washing machine, my baseline energy usage is unchanged and even so, my costs compared to Octopus Flexible (similar to Next Flex) have dropped by 40% over the last few days!
I expect the savings to continue in to Autumn but who knows what will happen to the Agile algorithm and/or wholesale prices. I wish I had wised up months ago and moved to Octopus earlier but let's see what happens. I've joined the waiting list for the Tracker product (primarily for gas only) but unsure if a straight average unit cost for the day is better than managing my consumption by hour in Agile. Time will tell.
Soldato
Exactly, you can move to Agile now, you cant tracker. There frankly isnt much choice to make.
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For those on gas tracker, whats the standing charge ???
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Mines 26.84p
Soldato
Personally I will see what to do later in the year, you can always go back to SVR pricing if necessary.
It's possible gas tracker will wind up being cheaper on average, but if wholesale costs rocket again over winter, then it will feel a lot of pain.
Over the summer, Agile/Tracker seems sensible, got another 3-4 months of that being true.