The most vulnerable still get it.
Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)
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We can discuss energy prices, winter fuel payments are not on topic and we’ve already discussed it in speakers corner. Thats politics, not energy prices.We cant discuss energy prices and associated government policy in the 'Energy Prices (strictly NO referrals!) thread'? Seriously
but if you want the summary, the £200 makes naff all difference to the vast majority of pensions (the average pensioner has more disposable income than the average working person).
The people on the lowest incomes still get it. A few people on lower incomes which aren’t low enough to get pension credit but are still low will miss out.
For added context, the state pension has risen faster than inflation since the triple lock was implemented which was after winter fuel payments came in. So those who are on low incomes but are slightly above pension credit are receiving a higher income in real terms than when winter fuel payments originally came in.
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Wow that sounds great - I'm sure they will be grateful - the other 10m though **** em says Labour.
Soldato
Indeed this coming winter will be interesting to see.
The vast majority of the other 10m have more disposable money than the typical working person.
Should we all get £200 winter fuel payments? Most of us, including pensioners won’t have higher energy bills in winter anyway because paying by an averaged direct debit over 12 months. Getting a winter fuel payment in winter is almost irrelevant these days.
Wealthy boomers mostly don’t need the winter fuel allowance and it’s been a national disgrace that we’ve been giving money to wealthy pensioners for years as children starved in this country. It is a very easy and justifiable benefit to reform. The benefit is still available for all pensioners on pension credit.
If you have any stats or evidence to the say that it’s not well implemented please post it here.
Who made you the forum thought police - oh no criticism of this ***** government, quick hide it in SC.
Who made you the spokesperson of all the pensioners to decide whether the payment makes naff all difference? The lack of self awareness is staggering.
As I said... callous.
For added context - energy prices are a lot higher now.. seriously. There are people in this thread quibbling over pennies... as I said no self awareness.
Ah 'wealthy boomers' - the real story - typical leftist politics of envy.. all pensioners must own a mansion and millions in shares. Pathetic.
No people that could and should be working don't need it.
Basically it doesnt affect you so hide the shame in SC. Nice.
Nor do people with more than adequate wealth and healthy pension incomes.
What do you class as adequate wealth? Given people on here bleating about struggling on a £100k I think £200 a week must be tough.
Anyway back to discussing how people on here are struggling with pennies being added to the standing charge..
Note I said wealth and pension incomes - enough to pay your ongoing bills without needing handouts.
Why give out money to people who don't actually need it? It's pointless.
If £218pw is genuinely not enough for someone to survive on, alongside the other benefits they may be entitled to, then the solution to that problem is to amend pension credit thresholds rather than indiscriminately throw £200 at virtually everyone of pension age regardless of whether they need it or not.
Commissario
This thread is to discuss energy prices.
May I remind you of the description underneath General Discussion in the forum description: "Political threads should be posted in Speaker's Corner, they are not allowed in GD." and an excerpt from our rules: "All political threads should be posted in Speakers Corner."
So if you wish to discuss what you perceive to be the governments involvement with energy prices, go and start a thread in SC. Continue in here and you'll find yourself unable to contribute to this thread.
Back on topic, Octopus Tracker electricity is 13.03p/kWh for me tomorrow!