I am on Agile and kept my same pattern, I think the only thing to be wary of is using "heavy " electric at those times, if its just watching TV, lights, fridge, that type of stuff its not a big deal. As the cheaper price over the other 21 hours will overcome it then. Although my usage is fairly balanced over a 24 hour period, its not peaky at 4-7pm like it might be for 9-5 families with kids etc.
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Soldato
Its a shame they don't combine tracker with Intelligent Go. Electricity is 12p today for me on Tracker. When I move to IG I will have to give that up and it would be 22p day rate.
Soldato
£1.23 in profit today.
Soldato
Agile is a tricky beast.
You really need batteries or be able to significantly load shift.
Eg today I charged by batts early am. Force discharged at breakfast/early morning. Went on grid until 4pm and also charged my batts again ready for this evening.
Plus heated the water with elec rather than gas.
But this is an unusual day.
Agile is cheaper than go was for me, but not by that much and part of that is down to better export rate.
Most of the time the cheap agile is early am and mid afternoon. Negative is fairly rare.
Historical data can be found here
energy-stats.uk
You really need batteries or be able to significantly load shift.
Eg today I charged by batts early am. Force discharged at breakfast/early morning. Went on grid until 4pm and also charged my batts again ready for this evening.
Plus heated the water with elec rather than gas.
But this is an unusual day.
Agile is cheaper than go was for me, but not by that much and part of that is down to better export rate.
Most of the time the cheap agile is early am and mid afternoon. Negative is fairly rare.
Historical data can be found here
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Soldato
I thought that, but don’t I constantly have to check what the prices are going to be to ensure I don’t cook/run the washing machine etc at the wrong time ?
No that is agile. Tracker is one price all day.
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Fair play. I've been tilted about the negative environmental and practical considerations of solar / EV / wind / and the usefulness of heat pumps in UK homes (as I've known them).
If your home has a configuration that favours a heat pump, I can't begrudge you that and getting out of the standing charge for gas.
I've picked my two year energy fix as a hedge against the immediate future, and obviously you've calculated what's best for your home and implemented it.
I think that's all I have to say and I have no devastating comeback
Previous Fixed Tarrif - June
New Tarrif Octopus GO - July/Early August
Your estimated annual cost
£1,212.24 a year for electricity - JUNE BILL
Your estimated annual cost
£817.74 a year for electricity - JULY/EARLY AUGUST BILL
I was charged around £45 for just over a months worth of usage compared to £60+
Mum is also in credit for the first time for many years
New Tarrif Octopus GO - July/Early August
Your estimated annual cost
£1,212.24 a year for electricity - JUNE BILL
Your estimated annual cost
£817.74 a year for electricity - JULY/EARLY AUGUST BILL
I was charged around £45 for just over a months worth of usage compared to £60+
Mum is also in credit for the first time for many years
Soldato
How is ownership of a EV going ?
Don't have one, this is going towards storage heating in the winter, which I've changed the times when the low rate kicks in 12.30 till 5.30
Soldato
The first of 4 new electricity "super highways" between Scotland and England have been approved....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynlkjp5m1o
I await the SC increase to cover it and, just for @200sols
- no doubt disproportionately higher in the areas that's producing the electricity in order to help supply areas that have the lowest SC 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynlkjp5m1o
I await the SC increase to cover it and, just for @200sols
- no doubt disproportionately higher in the areas that's producing the electricity in order to help supply areas that have the lowest SC
Soldato
Uhoh you had to @Richie didn't you! 
Soldato
Yes and no... You can ignore the last part of the last sentence
In all seriousness though, I can foresee the SC going up considerably over the next x amount of years it takes to install the new lines (all 4 of them)
Although I wonder if other parts will decrease due to not having to pay out for Curtailment of the Wind Turbines as much
EDIT: Between the vast amounts of electricity generated and the large reservoirs of fresh water available (with reports of fresh water supposedly running out in England within 30 years), its no wonder rUk don't want Scotland to bugger off as an Independent nation
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I thought we'd already established the grid wide infrastructure was funded from the unit price.Yes and no... You can ignore the last part of the last sentence
In all seriousness though, I can foresee the SC going up considerably over the next x amount of years it takes to install the new lines (all 4 of them)
Although I wonder if other parts will decrease due to not having to pay out for Curtailment of the Wind Turbines as much
EDIT: Between the vast amounts of electricity generated and the large reservoirs of fresh water available (with reports of fresh water supposedly running out in England within 30 years), its no wonder rUk don't want Scotland to bugger off as an Independent nation
Soldato
Indeed, imagine how cheap that unit price would be in areas where they are regularly over producing
For example I get free Electric at times from Octopus as they literally cannot get it out of the area. (normally windy days)
Greg who is CEO of Octopus says we should have proper regional pricing and not basically* a national price.
I found something interesting though, onshore wind is connected to the local grid and goes no where near the national.
I think my view is more aligned to Richie in general that to me it makes little sense to have different methodologies in how we price different parts of the national electricity network.
It would certainly be fairer by my mind to either properly chop it up or properly standardise the costs to all.
I say basically as its not, but the main underlying costs are the same.
EDIT: Between the vast amounts of electricity generated and the large reservoirs of fresh water available (with reports of fresh water supposedly running out in England within 30 years), its no wonder rUk don't want Scotland to bugger off as an Independent nation
The England running out of water thing is a bit of a lie to be honest. Parts may but thats assuming no infrastructure. As I posted in another thread there is a large pipe being laid near to me that is linking down a fair distance of the east coast.
We are also especially poor at collecting the potential of water so we would need to improve that.
Which makes a lot of sense but this idea the Scottish are funding London infrastructure, complete rubbish I'm afraid. The national price model which is basically set to cover 3 hours of higher use per day is outdated but many people are pushing back against the alternatives with their tin foil on.Indeed, imagine how cheap that unit price would be in areas where they are regularly over producing
For example I get free Electric at times from Octopus as they literally cannot get it out of the area. (normally windy days)
Greg who is CEO of Octopus says we should have proper regional pricing and not basically* a national price.