Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

413x said:
Problem is, many people don't plan to stay long enough in their house.
Some things make sense. But big out lays like windows, solar, battery, heat pump... Still seem reserved for long term houses.

And on your first home, who has that cash?

So you get all these first homes that just get left as is.

Without government support I don't see it changing as much of this is more and more expensive as time goes on
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In principle, the government shouldn’t need to be paying to insulate peoples privacy owned homes.

If they really want to move the needle on energy efficiency it needs to be done via regulation. A sensible strategy is to build up the requirements over time. The stick is that you can’t sell the house without meeting the requirements. The carrot is that the quicker you do it, the more you’ll personally benefit.

It’s not just about energy efficiency either, it makes a huge difference to general comfort from it maintaining a more even temperature.
 
Tomato Energy Lifestyle tariff looks awefully tempting.

Octopus 60p daily standing charge is a joke and those 5p overnight rates look juicy.

Only hang-up is Tomato is a new company and could be crap or go belly up like bulb.

What to do...
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
In principle, the government shouldn’t need to be paying to insulate peoples privacy owned homes.

If they really want to move the needle on energy efficiency it needs to be done via regulation. A sensible strategy is to build up the requirements over time. The stick is that you can’t sell the house without meeting the requirements. The carrot is that the quicker you do it, the more you’ll personally benefit.

It’s not just about energy efficiency either, it makes a huge difference to general comfort from it maintaining a more even temperature.
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It would have to be very slow and steady. But I suspect it would get the tories into power if labour did it for example
 
CaneyJ said:
Tomato Energy Lifestyle tariff looks awefully tempting.

Octopus 60p daily standing charge is a joke and those 5p overnight rates look juicy.

Only hang-up is Tomato is a new company and could be crap or go belly up like bulb.

What to do...
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That's my problem with them along with quite a few people complaining about their customer service and blocking moves away from them as well as delays to getting accounts set up. With a EV I can't risk them going belly up and getting stuck on a standard rate. Their daily standing charge is 20p per day cheaper than Octopus on the electricity alone so it is tempting me but nobody would think that Bulb would go under let alone a unknown like Tomato.
 
413x said:
Just had a look.
For January 2024 used 2000kwh of gas in 27 days.
So that's about 70kwh a day of gas at peak winter.
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Jeez. Our 2017 3-bed detached used 5,650kWh for the whole of 2023 :p that's gas central heating liberally at 19.5C and combi boiler for hot water.

We're at 4,050kWh gas usage so far for 2024, so expecting similar usage this year, though I'm splashing out and adjusting the thermostat temperatures to 20C :D
 
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3/4 bed semi for 2023 we used 6277kwh of Gas and imported 3736kwh of electricity (but also exported 2539kwh so our net import was only 1200ish) (our total usage was much higher (5212kwh) but self used electricity we generated ourselves does not really matter)

That was mostly pre home charging our EV however (we started in october for 1 car and end november for another) , our electricity usage has gone up significantly in 2024.

We have gas heating, hot water and gas heated power shower. i wish the shower was electric to be honest but not changing that now.
 
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bigmike20vt said:
3/4 bed semi for 2023 we used 6277kwh of Gas and imported 3736kwh of electricity (but also exported 2539kwh so our net usage was only 1200ish) (our usage was much higher but not counted self used electricity)

That was pre home charging our EV however (we started in october for 1 car and end november for another) , our electricity usage has gone up significantly in 2024.

We have gas heating, hot water and gas heated power shower. i wish the shower was electric to be honest but not changing that now.
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I was thinking of swapping the electric power shower for gas way back. But now I think that's the wrong choice. When we get on agile it will be easy to move showering to cheap times.

Its 10kwh too. So the most energy demanding thing in the house
 
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413x said:
I was thinking of swapping the electric power shower for gas way back. But now I think that's the wrong choice. When we get on agile it will be easy to move showering to cheap times.

Its 10kwh too. So the most energy demanding thing in the house
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Aye, alarm on to wake you up at 02:45 for your cheap shower then back to bed :p
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
principle, the government shouldn’t need to be paying to insulate peoples privacy owned homes.
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In the past there have been local programmes available to improve housing. For example in the Mosely area of Birmingham, a lot of Victorian style houses were given grants to do roof replacement. I don't know when this was but I know of it because a few owners declined and they are the houses that now have original slate roofs instead of clay shaped tiles.
 
Richie said:
Aye, alarm on to wake you up at 02:45 for your cheap shower then back to bed :p
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To be honest the cheap agile times for much of the year follow a roughly 12 hour clock, so as you say early morning, but pretty regularly also early afternoon.

Those free energy sessions Octopus give are typically early to mid afternoon as thats when the grid often has a surplus.
 
My gas use last winter was 2100 kWh for December and 2700 kWh for January. 1935 ish semi detached 3 bed.

External wall insulation impossible. Loft already done. Double glazing throughout already.

That does include the shower (off the combi) and gas oven though.
 
danlightbulb said:
Just saw Tomato energy mentioned a page or so back so I took a look.

Better than Octopus on standing charge, overnight rate and daytime rates.




I don't think Tomato energy does gas tariffs, can't see any.
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Are these averages? Or is this absolute?
I'd would make life easy if the unit prices at 10-12 were always lower.
Especially if evening prices were 24-25p capped.. Not 40-50p!

Standing charge is much cheaper. Basically a free unit of electric a day.
 
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