Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

Vita said:
Well so far it’s saved money off our electricity bill. Anything that we don’t use goes back to the grid and then offsets our gas usage. To me it’s worth having. Bearing in mind I haven’t paid for the installation at all, as it came with our property. So far with the tariff we’re on, and taking into consideration the difference in weather we usually send back to the grid £35 to £50 a electricity a month.
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Thanks for the lengthy reply :) even if j wanted to, I'm not I'd be allowed to do it on a new build
 
Delvis said:
Thanks for the lengthy reply :) even if j wanted to, I'm not I'd be allowed to do it on a new build
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Not sure what you are saying here, that you wouldn't be allowed solar panels on new build - if so that incorrect.
All new builds are being forced to look at energy saving measures , i.e. generate own power and cut too as part of the sustainability rules. So they have to install solar panels, or wind turbines, heat pumps and also charging points for elec vehicles, if you don't then you pay a fee to compensate which is calculated on emissions
 
sad099 said:
Not sure what you are saying here, that you wouldn't be allowed solar panels on new build - if so that incorrect.
All new builds are being forced to look at energy saving measures , i.e. generate own power and cut too as part of the sustainability rules. So they have to install solar panels, or wind turbines, heat pumps and also charging points for elec vehicles, if you don't then you pay a fee to compensate which is calculated on emissions
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Well, we have gas everything, and at no point did we get approached about having solar panels which was an ideal time as we purchased before the house was evening finished.

He'll we aren't meant to replace the flowers in our front garden or put hanging baskets up
 
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They have windows that can act as solar panels. I think it only makes sense for skyscrapers at the moment but look forward to efficency gains where people can just change every window to gain power simply.

Homeowners in parts of England could be forced to pay for net zero improvements (msn.com)

don't build more nuclear power stations.
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They are now but it'll take a decade even with their fast track plan afaik. Someone did mention the irony to building a nuclear power station near to the shoreline (they need the cooling water) while expecting rising sea levels from the melting polar caps. East coast is where they will lose most shore line I think
 
The unfortunate truth about pretty much every green technology at the moment when it comes to being a homeowner is that it costs so much that you are unlikely to break even for decades unless you get large subsidies from the government which is essentially your fellow tax payer subsidising your bills. Even something as simple and cheap as adding insulation to your loft doesn't pay back for a ridiculous amount of time and that ignoring the added cost most people would have to pay in order to raise the floor in the roof if they still want any storage.

To "modernise" our house it would probably cost the best part of £50k and would knock a lot of value off it because its an Edwardian house. If you are lucky enough to get a dodgy insulation fitter you might lose a crazy amount of money having to fix it as well.

The only way that we are going to come out of this even remotely well is if we knock up a load of nuclear plants and move pretty much everything to electric instead of gas. UK homes are not thermally efficient and old homes never will be. I don't care how I heat my home as long as its the cheapest way and actually heats my home.
 
LeMson said:
I agree 100%, but what political party supports this idea?
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None of them. They take a long time to build, people are scared of them so don't want them anywhere near their homes and what party wants to put loads of money into nuclear that they may never get the credit for.
 
fez said:
None of them. They take a long time to build, people are scared of them so don't want them anywhere near their homes and what party wants to put loads of money into nuclear that they may never get the credit for.
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Guess I'm making my way over to the Is this the 70's Doom thread then :D
 
theone8181 said:
Panels do seem like a good idea, but you have to have quite a lump of cash for them. Looking at my usage, I'm at about 4mwh per year so generating 11kwh or so would cover my usage, although I'm in Yorkshire and my house faces east so I'd have to have panels on the whole roof which obviously adds cost.
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Fag packet calculation 4MWh elec about the same output in electricity as 1.5-2 tonnes of coal in a modernish power station.

Coal is kind of £75/tonne so fuel cost of making 4MWh from coal £100-150

At 28 p/KWh 4MWh is £1,120
 
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fez said:
They take a long time to build, people are scared of them so don't want them anywhere near their homes and what party wants to put loads of money into
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thought that was a introduction to a discourse on solar panels - local builder who built my place was saying that solar panels in new builds (down the road)
can be used to offset insulation/heating efficiency - solar panel or heat-pump, gas hob or induction, mhrv.
 
jpaul said:
thought that was a introduction to a discourse on solar panels - local builder who built my place was saying that solar panels in new builds (down the road)
can be used to offset insulation/heating efficiency - solar panel or heat-pump, gas hob or induction, mhrv.
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Someone I know put solar panels on his house around ten years ago and there are often times where he is paid by the Grid for his surplus energy.

He is very pleased he made the investment and it was paid off years ago anyway.

It's a pity the Tories removed the subsidies for solar panels, more shortsightedness from them.

Here is a list of some of their idiocy which reached a peak after they booted out the Lib Dems who were very good on this issue and drove much of our progress on it: https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-green-policies-killed-off-by-tory-government

https://www.inews.co.uk/news/analysis/conservatives-promise-green-revolution-before-analysis-678842/

And their failure on nuclear power:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-we-need-nuclear-for-net-zero/
 
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Just paid £400 for 500ltrs of house oil, I didn't want to wait longer but if it goes up further we won't be able to afford it. Thankfully I can use PayPal, paying in three payments.
 
I paid 64.9 ordered on the 7th feb but thats for the minimum here 500l ,always a little more expensive than 1000l ,also a small tanker as private road on hillside is a bit tricky ,the only reason i filled up is that my daughter is visiting and she doesn't skimp on the CH like me (i am ok with an hour a day tbh)
 
muon said:
What's that equivalent to in terms of gas in a boiler?
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We moved from a 4 bedroom house paying £50 a month in gas heating back in 2019 to a 3 bedroom farmhouse in the middle of nowhere. So that's £600 a year in just gas, dunno how much it is now though.

So far this winter we've put in 1000ltrs so £750 for the year but we had half a tank left as the price was low during the worst of covid, £100 for 500ltrs.(wish I could have stored it)

So at a guess we'll need 1500ltrs a year if the price stays the same it'll be £1200. So £100 a month in oil the electric is £150, it was £100.
 
my boiler burns about 1.5 litre per hour but burner on maybe 60 percent 0.9 L hour ,call it 1 litre an hour
so if it averages 2.5 hours a day over the year (i dont) it would be near 900 litres
not a massive house though and lots of glass
Edit ,also an oil boiler wont work without electric ,burner motor and ch pump ,i think my meter shows about 500w
 
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