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Someone I know put solar panels on his house around ten years ago and there are often times where he is paid by the Grid for his surplus energy.

He is very pleased he made the investment and it was paid off years ago anyway.

It's a pity the Tories removed the subsidies for solar panels, more shortsightedness from them.

Here is a list of some of their idiocy which reached a peak after they booted out the Lib Dems who were very good on this issue and drove much of our progress on it: https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-green-policies-killed-off-by-tory-government

https://www.inews.co.uk/news/analysis/conservatives-promise-green-revolution-before-analysis-678842/

And their failure on nuclear power:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-we-need-nuclear-for-net-zero/

To be fair, the price of solar is the cheapest it's even been. I don't think it actually needs subsidies any more, most properties can be outfitted with all the panels they need for £5-£6k (if you exclude batteries etc). Capitalism and competition has driven prices down rather than subsidies.
 
There is no ceiling to how bad this can get. And it will keep getting worse and worse....

For one our government loves to use domestic energy supplies for Tax revenues, because they can get away with it, think about it, if you criticise it they say its for the good of the environment and you get labelled a climate change denier.
They did it with smoking, its bad for your health so.... TAX, and with sugar, bad for you health so TAX, we all clap and cheer like demented seals.

On top of that our love of globalisation has made us dependant (ironically) on fossil fuels controlled by outside interests (Hello... Putin) when instead what we should have been doing is becoming self sufficient with nuclear power, which is also far greener than gas, but no, lets give foreign countries control of our energy supply, that will bring them in to our lovely globalist family of tulips and unicorns.
Every single time liberals get to implement their rose tinted delusions it ends in a global catastrophe.

Just wait for China to decide we are all sufficiently dependent on them.
 
The VAT on energy bills is a national disgrace, completely unethical to charge tax on energy, same scam with food not being zero rated.

We can be thankful that crypto currency is allowing citizens for the 1st time to effectively evade taxes.
 
Why? Just leaves the rest of us picking up the bill.

We have to start questioning what those bills are for, 18,000 people employed to watch Twitter feeds to make sure no one says anything offensive, and then more resources for diversity trained coppers knocking on your door to "check your thinking" when you mock the concept of a woman's penis.

I could go on for hours there is so much money being wasted of crap like that ^^^^ but i don't want to turn this in to a political thread.

The Governments job it to protect our streets and take away our trash, that's it, we don't need 2 million public servants dreaming up ways they can create even more jobs for friends and family on the tax funded pay role.
 
The VAT on energy bills is a national disgrace, completely unethical to charge tax on energy, same scam with food not being zero rated.

We can be thankful that crypto currency is allowing citizens for the 1st time to effectively evade taxes.

Most food sold in retail shops is zero rated for VAT. My last supermarket shop was £57.49 and 57p of that was VAT.

How are you evading tax using crypto currency?

The Governments job it to protect our streets and take away our trash, that's it, we don't need 2 million public servants dreaming up ways they can create even more jobs for friends and family on the tax funded pay role.

Binmen and policemen, that's really it?
 
Most food sold in retail shops is zero rated for VAT. My last supermarket shop was £57.49 and 57p of that was VAT.

How are you evading tax using crypto currency?



Binmen and policemen, that's really it?

And pothole fillers.... yeah, pretty much.

Obviously i'm being pedantic, my point is there is far too much wastage we have to pay for.
 
Capitalism and competition has driven prices down rather than subsidies. ...
techical innovation improvements in fabrication process.
 
Do we need to pay two thousand lords to turn up and fall asleep?
Most of those don't turn and thus are not paid. When someone decides to "improve" things with an elected house you will have 200+ being paid a shed load more and I have no doubt that what replaces the Lords will be far more expensive than what we have now. Cost wouldn't be my first line of attack.
 
I would love to know what percentage of our money actually ends paid to government when you take in to account all the stealth taxes.

I bet its a lot, and its never enough, they are always going to want more, until you are left with nothing to give them.
 
I would love to know what percentage of our money actually ends paid to government when you take in to account all the stealth taxes.

I bet its a lot, and its never enough, they are always going to want more, until you are left with nothing to give them.

generally in the UK our total tax hit is pretty low compared to almost all other comparable nations. We ideally need to pay a lot more tax and for that to be spent wisely..
 
Most food sold in retail shops is zero rated for VAT. My last supermarket shop was £57.49 and 57p of that was VAT.

Mine was £5 because they charge the full 20% on fruit and vegetable products like smoothies.

How are you evading tax using crypto currency?

Selling and buying goods and services while paying no vat on them or tax on the income.

The inability of government to regulate crypto will liberate society from their shackles in a way we could never have previously imagined.

Why? Just leaves the rest of us picking up the bill.

Government will have to compete with the grey and black markets by reducing taxation to a reasonable level otherwise their tax take will fall off a cliff.
 
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Smoothies are not exactly the essentials are they? Well perhaps for the top revenue earners they are...

Food is food, stop being an apologist for the arbitrary classifications of some foods as essential and others not.

People in this country are eating in a really unhealthy way, do you really think putting people off fruit and veg with vat is sensible? Do you seriously believe people will buy a carrot as an alternative to a smoothie? No of course not, they'll just get some cheaper junk food.

Smoothies are an easy accessable way for the public to get some portions of fruit and veg.
 
Mine was £5 because they charge the full 20% on fruit and vegetable products like smoothies.

People in this country are eating in a really unhealthy way, do you really think putting people off fruit and veg with vat is sensible? Do you seriously believe people will buy a carrot as an alternative to a smoothie? No of course not, they'll just get some cheaper junk food.

They don't charge VAT on apples, bananas, oranges etc. Try some of those instead.

It's comical you think someone buying junk food would buy a fruit smoothie instead if it were 16.67% cheaper.

Selling and buying goods and services while paying no vat on them or tax on the income.

The inability of government to regulate crypto will liberate society from their shackles in a way we could never have previously imagined.

You may think you sound edgy and maverick but you're simply admitting to criminal activity.
 
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