Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

chrcoluk · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:00

Surveyor said:
See reply #7,357. Agile is now capped at 55p/kWh and there's a 45.07p daily standing charge.

Yep thanks, see also my last reply. I put in bold for correction.

the shadow · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:03

Grants Available - British Gas Energy Trust

Apply to the British Gas Energy Trust for grants to clear domestic gas & electricity debts. You should get money or debt advice before applying.

britishgasenergytrust.org.uk

Zenduri · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:04

the shadow said:
Grants Available - British Gas Energy Trust

Apply to the British Gas Energy Trust for grants to clear domestic gas & electricity debts. You should get money or debt advice before applying.

britishgasenergytrust.org.uk

- E.ON Next Energy Fund

www.eonnextenergyfund.com

Another one in case anyone can make use of it

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:04

The UK energy market must now be the most broken thing I can think of in my lifetime

Foghorn Leghorn · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:10

413x said:
Different ball park I think here.
Petrol hasn't trippled.
Also. If you don't work it isn't really an issue.

Everyone is hit by utility costs.

And its all at the same time.

adam cool dude said:
Fuel prices are manageable and not everyone needs a car. This time last year I was doing 250 miles a week. I am lucky to do that a month now. You could also walk the school run/shops etc to save . Everyone needs to pay for energy bills. I can really see this being the beginning of the end and far worse than 2008 ever was.

It will definitely be the final nail in the coffin for hospitality as that is the first thing people are going to cut back on.

The people who will riot are those with nothing to lose and nowhere to turn for help. Give them enough support (low earners and those on benefits are already getting approx. £1.5k+ of support and I wouldn't be surprised if the government tops that up further after October) for this winter then why would they bother? middle classes aren't going to go out en masse, they've too much to lose (plus it's cold/wet and strictly is on tv), nice house with a big mortgage, car on finance, kids in the local schools, white collar job, they'll moan about it on twitter/facebook instead. The well off don't care, the price rises are a drop in the ocean.

adam cool dude · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:11

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
The UK energy market must now be the most broken thing I can think of in my lifetime

Exactly we use less energy now than we did in something silly like the mid 00's. It is all purely greed. Fire up the coal and get people mining again till we can build enough Nuclear. I take it the French are pretty much laughing now?

Trifid · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:11

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
The UK energy market must now be the most broken thing I can think of in my lifetime

Our government says hello.

chrcoluk · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:11

the shadow said:
Grants Available - British Gas Energy Trust

Apply to the British Gas Energy Trust for grants to clear domestic gas & electricity debts. You should get money or debt advice before applying.

britishgasenergytrust.org.uk

Yeah pretty much what I predicted, it would seem a way to get help is to not pay to then qualify for debt relief.

Zenduri · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:14

I know this cropped up in the thread the other day but EONNext will start credit checking people who move into a property already supplied by EONnext in the next couple of weeks as part of a debt risk move

Surveyor · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:17

chrcoluk said:
Yeah pretty much what I predicted, it would seem a way to get help is to not pay to then qualify for debt relief.

Not paying isn't going to qualify anyone for debt relief.

danlightbulb · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:19

Zenduri said:
I know this cropped up in the thread the other day but EONNext will start credit checking people who move into a property already supplied by EONnext in the next couple of weeks as part of a debt risk move

They cant refuse to supply though can they, I think the best they can do is ask for a deposit.

Zenduri · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:20

danlightbulb said:
They cant refuse to supply though can they, I think the best they can do is ask for a deposit.

They can limit what deals they offer you meaning higher prices due to the risk

Jokester · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:21

Would likely force you onto a prepay meter maybe?

Curlyriff · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:22

chrcoluk said:
Yep thanks, see also my last reply. I put in bold for correction.

Cheers anyways for the info. Good to know in futures years possibly but seems worth just sticking with variable then. Typical missing out but that is life with things. Will just keep trying to ride it out.

Zenduri · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:23

Jokester said:
Would likely force you onto a prepay meter maybe?

This too

Zenduri · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:25

413x said:
If these prices hold over winter start of 2023 with January price cap.. Doesn't bear thinking about

Zenduri said:
March 23 is floating at an ATH of 450 at the moment so Jan increase will be horrific too

March 23 has now gone from 450 to 500 alreayd today

potatolord · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:25

Foghorn Leghorn said:
The people who will riot are those with nothing to lose and nowhere to turn for help. Give them enough support (low earners and those on benefits are already getting approx. £1.5k+ of support and I wouldn't be surprised if the government tops that up further after October) for this winter then why would they bother? middle classes aren't going to go out en masse, they've too much to lose (plus it's cold/wet and strictly is on tv), nice house with a big mortgage, car on finance, kids in the local schools, white collar job, they'll moan about it on twitter/facebook instead. The well off don't care, the price rises are a drop in the ocean.

Those on a pay as you go meter will notice increasing prices the most. They will have real time information on what the price rise actually means.

Uther · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:28

adam cool dude said:
Exactly we use less energy now than we did in something silly like the mid 00's. It is all purely greed. Fire up the coal and get people mining again till we can build enough Nuclear. I take it the French are pretty much laughing now?

Even the Germans are going back to coal IIRC, which is something I would never have imagined.

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:29

Zenduri said:
I know this cropped up in the thread the other day but EONNext will start credit checking people who move into a property already supplied by EONnext in the next couple of weeks as part of a debt risk move

Oof.

The point I made the other day people thinking mass non payment can only achieve a move in the direction they want and that its just as likely it will work against them they cannot comprehend.

I mean I can honestly see all new customers being forced to have a prepayment meter, or place a deposit of something like 3 months usage if non payment becomes a significant issue.

Haggisman · 27 Jul 2022 at 13:30

Foghorn Leghorn said:
The people who will riot are those with nothing to lose and nowhere to turn for help. Give them enough support (low earners and those on benefits are already getting approx. £1.5k+ of support and I wouldn't be surprised if the government tops that up further after October) for this winter then why would they bother? middle classes aren't going to go out en masse, they've too much to lose (plus it's cold/wet and strictly is on tv), nice house with a big mortgage, car on finance, kids in the local schools, white collar job, they'll moan about it on twitter/facebook instead. The well off don't care, the price rises are a drop in the ocean.

The higher the prices go, the more of those middle classes become those with nothing to lose. If they can't afford to make the repayments on that financed car or big mortgage then what do you think is going to happen?

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Oof.

The point I made the other day people thinking mass non payment can only achieve a move in the direction they want and that its just as likely it will work against them they cannot comprehend.

I mean I can honestly see all new customers being forced to have a prepayment meter, or place a deposit of something like 3 months usage if non payment becomes a significant issue.

Great time to become a meter installer or debt collector eh?