Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

esmozz said:
I can assure you I can read the numbers off the letter written to me by Bulb - 38.59p per kwh (electric). Which would be about 60p per kwh without the energy support scheme.

But I did make a mistake - I've read the price for the september bill which is 18c per kwh, it may or may not go up again. The support package that will come into play this month is'nt exactly clear, I've shown the link you posted (thanks) to my partner (who's Latvian) we still don't get it, even from info written in Latvian.

In particular:

"Households will receive the first 100 kWh a month for a fixed tariff that does not increase EUR 160 per MWh"

Unless I'm completely miscalculating average energy usage, 100 kwh/month is nothing.

Which is all by the by. I believe that previously Latvia received 100% of its gas from Russia for both heating and electricity generation, apart from some hydro-electric power, they don't really have any other way of way of producting power.

The point being I expect my bill in Latvia to be an awful lot less than here in the U.K. I don't think the support package is actually anything that special - so where is all the money going here?

I suspect profiteering. For reference the spot price for electricity in the U.K right now is £280 per mwh. Or 28p per kwh.
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The issue was the UK price cap was based on the preceding 6months prices so even if prices fall as they have the cap would have stayed higher. Of course the upside was it shielded UK customers from much higher spot prices at the time.
 
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It was a very dull day yesterday, so solar production was the lowest for a long time - just 0.8 kWh :(

So last night, making the most of the off-peak electricity rate last night :)

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SDK^ said:
It was a very dull day yesterday, so solar production was the lowest for a long time - just 0.8 kWh :(

So last night, making the most of the off-peak electricity rate last night :)

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where in UK are you? it was a low production day here too near Cambridge but still managed 7kwh and my battery just got me through to my cheap rate. hope weather a little better today. got 3 loads of washing 1 needing tumble drier and 2 on heated clothes airer.
 
bigmike20vt said:
where in UK are you? it was a low production day here too near Cambridge but still managed 7kwh and my battery just got me through to my cheap rate. hope weather a little better today. got 3 loads of washing 1 needing tumble drier and 2 on heated clothes airer.
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I'm in Worcester - it was almost pitch dark all day yesterday, hammering down with rain at intervals
 
Two power cuts here last night, one very brief, about three minutes, then a later one of about 40 minutes. I like to assume it was some hardware failure and not the portent of things to regularly occur...

Will check the generator over today and give it an oil change, but it's only about 5kW so very limited in its usefulness. The secondhand and not obviously goosed bigger stuff around 16 to 20 kW are fetching silly money at the moment, as I suppose should be expected.
 
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SDK^ said:
I'm in Worcester - it was almost pitch dark all day yesterday, hammering down with rain at intervals
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I know what you mean. our high street made BBC news the last few days due to flash floods :(

on Bright side our (brand new) roof which has had multiple leaks and needed builders out 4 times now due to them got a good test and (touch wood) finally seems water tight!

with this talk of possible (hopefully unlikely) power cuts I am wondering if I should have ponied up the cash for off grid power. at the time I decided black outs for long periods were so unlikely, and that brownouts were more likely an issue which my battery can help with. oh well if we get cuts I will be in it with everyone else.
 
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413x said:
One of the reasons I'd see reduced benefit in Wales. Its grey here most of the winter!
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Well, I'm 8 months in using the battery to cover 98% of my peak use, small solar setup covered all the charging of the battery.
Thats with only 1KW solar connected in the Summer, just changed/connected the 500w of panels to the workshop, to the house.

Now have 1500w to the house battery.

No idea why you think solar has a reduced benefit in Wales?
 
Troop said:
Well, I'm 8 months in using the battery to cover 98% of my peak use, small solar setup covered all the charging of the battery.
Thats with only 1KW solar connected in the Summer, just changed/connected the 500w of panels to the workshop, to the house.

Now have 1500w to the house battery.

No idea why you think solar has a reduced benefit in Wales?
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The sunlight hours here vs the East is much reduced. So bang for buck is less. Especially in winter. Winters here can be grey. For weeks.

Where I used to live (Suffolk) it was much drier and brighter in winter. So benefit here must be less.


Its for sure something I'll look at when I have a longer term home. Even if I still live in Wales. (I probably will, or Scotland)
 
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413x said:
The sunlight hours here vs the East is much reduced. So bang for buck is less. Especially in winter. Winters here can be grey. For weeks.

Where I used to live (Suffolk) it was much drier and brighter in winter. So benefit here must be less.
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You could simply speck more panels; they don't have to be on a roof.

Sounds like you're just trying to talk yourself out of it. :p

Edit to add, I'm in Mid Wales on the bottom of Plynlimon.
 
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Troop said:
You could simply speck more panels; they don't have to be on a roof.

Sounds like you're just trying to talk yourself out of it. :p
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Ah I couldn't here anyway.
Its actually an easy choice.

I believe our oak trees shade the roof.
The roof isn't ideal for panels. You can't physically fit many on.
There isn't really anywhere else to put them.
We have a relatively cheap energy fix vs others.
We aren't planning on staying more than 5 years here.

One of those things where. If there were grants, etc I probably would. But unless it's a long term house the upfront costs just don't make sense
 
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If I ever moved from Mid Wales, I'd just take my gear with me, not that I'd ever move, I love it here in the countryside.
 
Tuppy_Glossop said:
Just got my first £66 discount bill. Combined gas and electric, total to pay £1.94 :D

Edit: one month
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EON put our DD down from £74 to £7 without telling us why. We're massively in credit with them so we assumed that's why, because they haven't billed us for 9 months. We decided to put it back up to £70 and then realised it's because of the £400 grant. Tried to reduce it back down but you're only allowed to reduce it by 10%, so the minimum we're allowed to pay now is £63 and another £67 a month from the govt on top. Utter joke.
 
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If I ever moved from Mid Wales, I'd just take my gear with me, not that I'd ever move, I love it here in the countryside.
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Which area? I'd love to live near corris/Aberystwyth.

So quiet, beautiful and so so much to do outside
 
el_dazza said:
EON put our DD down from £74 to £7 without telling us why. We're massively in credit with them so we assumed that's why, because they haven't billed us for 9 months. We decided to put it back up to £70 and then realised it's because of the £400 grant. Tried to reduce it back down but you're only allowed to reduce it by 10%, so the minimum we're allowed to pay now is £63 and another £67 a month from the govt on top. Utter joke.
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Can you cancel the DD through your bank then start a new one?
 
413x said:
I am very jealous. Its a beautiful part of the country. Mountain bike/kayaking heaven.

My favourite UK holiday was in corris. Didn't want to come home!
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This is my Fav place Nant-y-Moch (Hydro dam) 5 miles from me, big mounting biking centre couple of miles away too. (Nant-yr-arian)

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