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ci_newman said:
Unfortunately all the signs are for an El Niño/La Niña event this winter, which typically brings much colder winter weather than the average we see in the UK.
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I was under the impression that La Niña (the one that cools the ocean) tends to bring milder but wetter winters. This is particularly true during a third consecutive La Niña which is what we have this year.

Edit: this link explains a little what happens in the UK:
https://www.yourweather.co.uk/news/trending/meteorologists-declare-triple-dip-la-nina-weather.html

Does La Niña affect the UK?​

The consequences of La Niña in Europe are much less obvious, with the only clear impact, according to the Met Office, being a tendency for slightly drier than average weather in the Iberian Peninsula during autumn.

In the UK, there is a tendency for La Niña years to favour high pressure in the mid-Atlantic during late autumn and early winter. This can promote intense, cold conditions due to the blocking of the Atlantic weather systems that typically deliver mild air.

Conversely, in late winter, the weather can turn milder as La Niña drives the jet stream closer to the North Pole. This can also result in stormier conditions, with increased rainfall.
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This suggests the earlier part of winter and end of autumn will be cooler and the later part will be warmer. Going by the last couple of years of La Nina it has definitely been much warmer than previous winters. Not had to use the heating in London and only had snow on a few days.
 
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delta0 said:
I was under the impression that La Niña (the one that cools the ocean) tends to bring milder but wetter winters. This is particularly true during a third consecutive La Niña which is what we have this year.

Edit: this link explains a little what happens in the UK:
https://www.yourweather.co.uk/news/trending/meteorologists-declare-triple-dip-la-nina-weather.html


This suggests the earlier part of winter and end of autumn will be cooler and the later part will be warmer. Going by the last couple of years of La Nina it has definitely been much warmer than previous winters. Not had to use the heating in London and only had snow on a few days.
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Just commenting based on a (usually pretty reliable) weather group I follow on FB. The triple-dip is the part that is of concern I think
 
Dangerous Dave said:
Now I’ve started to see our energy use after making reductions I think they have gone in too high with support as we’re under £30 a month more than last year. I can see why they are likely changing it in April. They should be pushing cutting energy usage more as it cuts costs but also helps with reduced load on the grid.

I can see the new package dropping the £400 and caps on a limited amount of units per month to cover the average house to stop benefiting well off users with high energy use like my friend who has turned back on his swimming pool heating due to the current cap saving him thousands.
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We are down to. 30-40 for October. Because it was given to everyone there are so many who don't need it really benefiting.

Probably be 60-70 in November (assuming heating is in full gear) but with a mild November? Could easily be 30-40 again
 
Such a ******* massive con.

Overpaying our DD by £50, but can’t reduce it by more than 10% or seemingly pay less than 2.5x.

Fine, we’ll have our £300 credit back.

Nope and nope, have to email them that’ll no doubt be ignored.

No wonder people are cancelling their DDs. Certainly won’t be setting up a DD on our second home where they wanted again 2.5x what we’ve actually used.
 
robj20 said:
Its annoying isn't it, the advice had been given out by multiple people multiple times.
No helping some people, takes like 30 seconds to fine the information online as well.
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To be fair, many suppliers either hide that its available or flat out lie when you ask about it (BG refused me the first time I asked until I pointed out it was a legal requirement to offer it).
 
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Well we got our credit back at least, but with them refusing to drop the DD we’ll just have to request a refund every few months. It’s amazing they can collect more than you actually use. No other industry would get away with it.

Now they’re trying to switch us to a worse tariff when all we want to do is not overpay by over £50 a month for energy we don’t use. So ridiculous.
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
Well we got our credit back at least, but with them refusing to drop the DD we’ll just have to request a refund every few months. It’s amazing they can collect more than you actually use. No other industry would get away with it.
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Did you try requesting a change to variable direct debit, so you only pay for what you use in full each month or quarter?

It's what I did with British Gas as they also refused to lower the fixed DD amount.
 
Woohoo, for the first time ever, I qualify for a winter fuel payment, getting a big, fat monkey, to be paid Nov/Dec!

I'll be able to turn the heating on and not worry about it, for a change.
 
robfosters said:
Energy companies are gonna get a nasty shock early next year when they end up having to chase millions in unpaid bills
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it is a real tough one.... if people are fugal but still do not have the money to pay, what are they supposed to do. OTOH your basic home energy suppliers are often not making huge profits so they need to get that money back.
ultimately i dont think the customer will win........ at the end of the day they may get away with it once, but at that point they could just get put on pay as you go meters which wont allow you not to pay then, and that will cost those with the least ability to pay, even more. :( it sucks no matter how you slice it.
 
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