England Euro 2020 Squad Chat

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Ayahuasca said:
I would hope he's at the point where he doesn't base a decision on one game.
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I'm sure he knows his final 26 as long as the Chelsea, Man City and Man United players make it through their finals unscathed.

Henderson, James, Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw, Chillwell, Mount, Foden, Greenwood, Rashford and Sterling all have 90 minutes to make the squad so other than the two left backs, we have the other positions covered in the 33.
 
I would ditch:
Ramsdale
James
Godfrey
Bellingham
Rashford
Mings
Greenwood

To be fair I've not seen enough of Mings this season, maybe you could make a case for Coady or White being left behind instead, that's just my gut call.

I'm expecting Rashford to be picked even though I wouldn't.

Bamford perhaps a bit hard done by, scored more goals than every English player except Kane.
 
FFS Ward-Prowse over Maddison? Seriously? Maddison with greater goal per game (and more goals in fewer games), more blocked shots in defence, better discplinary record, and the ability to score with either foot. Leicester's season tanked when he couldn't play. They'd probably have got CL if he'd not been benched that West Ham game for discplinary. The only thing Southgate can throw at him is that party in lockdown. If that's the reason then fair enough, but I think he offers more than Ward Prowse. However Foden and Greenwood are in there so it's a bit unfair if that's the reason given they did their breach while on England duty.

Agree about ditching Ramsdale, Godfrey, White and Mings. I'm not sure what they bring that others don't.

I would also take Bamford over Rashford. Glad Kalvin Phillips is in there, though I'd want to see whether his injury is bad and drop him out if it is. Lingard deserves his place.

Devasted to see Pope not in there again - another injury just before a tournament poor guy. I'm not sure why we need four keepers, but Henderson over Pickford for me (and Pope before Pickford too when he's fit)
 
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Andybtsn said:
Ramsdale, christ.

4th top scorer in the PL and Bamford doesn't make it, really stupid.
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I wouldn't liken Ramsdale to Christ although now you mention it holes in his hands might explain the number of balls that fizzed into the Sheffield net.

Not just Bamford, what about Ings? He's looked sharp in recent games and offers something different IMO
 
ik9000 said:
I wouldn't liken Ramsdale to Christ although now you mention it holes in his hands might explain the number of balls that fizzed into the Sheffield net.

Not just Bamford, what about Ings? He's looked sharp in recent games and offers something different IMO
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I think Ings is an intelligent player, offers something different I agree, as does Bamford.
 
ik9000 said:
FFS Ward-Prowse over Maddison? Seriously? Maddison with greater goal per game (and more goals in fewer games), more blocked shots in defence, better discplinary record, and the ability to score with either foot. Leicester's season tanked when he couldn't play. They'd probably have got CL if he'd not been benched that West Ham game for discplinary. The only thing Southgate can throw at him is that party in lockdown.
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I think it goes back to the casino incident. I don't see Maddison playing for England until the next manager comes along. :(
 
mysticsniper said:
I think it goes back to the casino incident. I don't see Maddison playing for England until the next manager comes along. :(
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you might be right, but what Foden and Greenwood did in Iceland, and the headlines that made, was worse surely?

As for a new England manager, only a couple of months to wait then.
 
HangTime said:
I would ditch:
Ramsdale
James
Godfrey
Bellingham
Rashford
Mings
Greenwood

To be fair I've not seen enough of Mings this season, maybe you could make a case for Coady or White being left behind instead, that's just my gut call.

I'm expecting Rashford to be picked even though I wouldn't.

Bamford perhaps a bit hard done by, scored more goals than every English player except Kane.
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Rashford will be on the starting eleven. What are you on. Greenwood will 100% go as well.
 
adam cool dude said:
Rashford will be on the starting eleven. What are you on. Greenwood will 100% go as well.
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oh we all know he'll be in the starting 11. What people are saying is there are more deserving and arguably better suited players to put in there instead. Two of those haven't even made southgate's long list. He gets to be more and more a joke with each squad announcement. Anyone remember the "I'm only picking based on performance on the pitch" comment (or whatever his words were)? At least he's had the balls to leave out Dier. But putting in Ramsdale and uncapped players like white? WTF?
 
Andybtsn said:
Ramsdale, christ.

4th top scorer in the PL and Bamford doesn't make it, really stupid.
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It is easy to be top scorer when you are the main target man for that club and doesn't he also take pens? Plus Bamford plays in Kane's position.

Also Rashford plays on the left and is best there whilst still netting 21 goals this season whilst being injured!
 
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ik9000 said:
oh we all know he'll be in the starting 11. What people are saying is there are more deserving and arguably better suited players to put in there instead. Two of those haven't even made southgate's long list. He gets to be more and more a joke with each squad announcement. Anyone remember the "I'm only picking based on performance on the pitch" comment (or whatever his words were)? At least he's had the balls to leave out Dier. But putting in Ramsdale and uncapped players like white? WTF?
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Who is better in the left side then?
 
Part of the mystery to solve about who Southgate takes, is what formation he plays.

343? 352? 442? 433? 4321? 4231?

It feels like he's tried most of them at some point :p

His comments from earlier about flexibility of players when he was talking about having 4 right backs kind of suggests he's not really got a primary formation in mind but is planning to mix it up quite a bit.
 
I think that's part of the problem though, the players never get to gel into a system because it's constantly being tinkered with. You can either take a set of players and drill them to different formations, or you can take a set system and rotate players, but trying to tinker with both doesn't seem wise to me.


edit: Some of those players are uncapped with England at any level and have not been privvy to "the England DNA" that Southgate has spoken of previously. It's not the right time just before a tournament to be giving people "experience". You need the actual squad to be gelling and synching with each other, not wasting time on people who won't even make the bus.
 
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adam cool dude said:
It is easy to be top scorer when you are the main target man for that club and doesn't he also take pens? Plus Bamford plays in Kane's position.

Also Rashford plays on the left and is best there whilst still netting 21 goals this season whilst being injured!
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Rashford scored 11 goals from 37 matches, no idea how many starts, not a great return. Presumably you are taking into account the the mickey mouse Europa league. Also in a team that finished 2nd will millions spent.

Bamford scored 2 pens and registered 8 assists, I don't even know why you are comparing Rashford to him?

You want strikers to score goals and Bamford did that only behind a 100m+ Kane, he should be in the squad. Southgate is an utter buffoon.
 
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