English League Cup round 4 [26-27 October] **Spoilers!**

K1LLSW1TCH said:
Anybody know the line ups yet for the Newcastle v Arsenal match?
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Our Pole is meant to be starting in Goal. Wenger has told him to put up or shut up after saying Arsenal were cowards for not picking him. If he has 10% of his arrogance in skill I think we will never concede a goal again.

JET is meant to be starting as well. Would like to see him and Bendtner up front together. Strong arm Newcastle into submission.
 
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ck88 said:
Even if Arsenal won the Carling Cup the so called moaners/complainers would still be there moaning/complaining about what Arsenal hasn't won. Inevitable.
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explicit4u said:
Well I know we've not spent 5 years developing a team just to win the carling cup!!!
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I think that rather sums it up, Arsenal fans have spent millions in the past 5 years on tickets, not really to see us win the cup that for the previous decade we didn't deem worthy.

We're supposed to be building a team to win the title, in previous years we USED the Carling cup to help build the players that could help us win a title.

Carling cup up till this season was something the top 4 rarely gave notice to beyond a very good test in a more competitive atmosphere for mostly reserve/youth players.

I wouldn't call it a massive turn around if we play a much stronger team and win it, we could frankly of done that in every one of the past 5 years.

Honestly the harder we try to win the Carling cup, the obviously lower we're aiming, I don't think any Arsenal fan would be happy with that.

Sure win it, win it with youths, win it while winning the title or at least being truly competitive. But win the Carling cup, get spanked against our first big team in Europe, get spanked by most of the top 4 in most of the games, no, it won't be a sign of anything.

Ok, it was ruddy hilarious that we went and put out a pretty damn strong team against Spurs, infact, it still makes me laugh how upset Harry was when he realised who was starting for us. But theres the point, Harry knew up till that game for a decade Wenger disreguarded the competition and hadn't given two monkeys about winning the "easiest" cup.

So the only thing it will signal, is something Wenger deemed beneath Arsenal, has become our only chance at a title :(
 
drunkenmaster said:
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Yes you're right, but the thing is without the budget of those around us and a manager fairly unwilling to spend what's apparently there we weren't really competing for the bigger trophies were we? We at the end of each season did roughly as well as predicted at the beginning - and that's fairly well/well enough each year to e.g. get to the Champion's League next time round.

If we do put out a strong side tonight (don't think it has been announced yet) then at least we go for this. A lot of older ex-players have said it takes just one trophy, irrelevant of size that spring boards us up to bigger ones.

I'm not particularly convinced by that line of thinking. However I think if we were to go for one domestic cup competition it should easily be the Carling Cup. I hold both as equals, but the League Cup starts and finishes earlier whereas the F.A. Cup runs from Jan, and mixes in with the League/Champions League run ins. If he were were to treat one competition lightly this year - it should be the latter. I've been saying this for years, finally Wengers swapped his domestic cup priorities around.
 
NEWCASTLE v ARSENAL

Newcastle: Krul, Perch, Williamson, Kadar, Ryan Taylor, Routledge, Guthrie, Smith, Vuckic, Lovenkrands, Ranger.

Subs: Soderberg, Coloccini, Jose Enrique, Barton, Carroll, Gutierrez, Tiote.


Arsenal: Szczesny, Eboue, Djourou, Koscielny, Gibbs, Denilson, Eastmond, Rosicky, Walcott, Bendtner, Vela.

Subs: Fabianski, Sagna, Fabregas, Arshavin, Emmanuel-Thomas, Lansbury, Nordtveit.
 
Hmm, pleased about the attack and that Rosicky starts. Wanted either Djourou or Squillaci to rest and he's done that as well. Would have preferred Fab in goal just so he continues his run but there's no problem with (copy + paste) Szczesny. According to Brentford fans he did pretty well for them.
 
Aston Villa: Friedel, Lichaj, Clark, Cuellar, Beye, Albrighton, Reo-Coker, Sidwell, Bannan, Ireland, Ashley Young. Subs: Guzan, Downing, Delfouneso, Heskey, Hogg, Collins, Johnson.

Er, he's not taking this one seriously then. What a horribly weak side. Young up front should be interesting though.
 
This is going to be one of those games isn't it?

Edit - I hate how formations in mainstream football have changed. Why do so many teams rely on their fullbacks to put in crosses?
 
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