English League Football ** spoilers ** [17th - 21st September 2010]

On a side issue I must be going soft in my old age, given 3 infractions and no suspensions for personal abuse

Lets keep it nice as I don't want to suspend anyone

well OK I do but ............. ;)
 
That's my football viewing screwed this year then :(

For as bad as we've been, we've had a very tricky start to the season. Arsenal, City and Utd, and away to Birmingham who've not lost at home in god knows how long.

Hopefully we can go on a bit of a run now :/
 
Agree, it's not as bad as it looks at first glance, we have had a tricky start to season

Honestly think 4th is well beyond us though :(
 
I'm not sure about it being well beyond us but we're going to need a bit of luck with injuries. Our first 11 is still very capable and with no CL football we're going to be able to give the likes of Torres and Gerrard plenty of rest.
 
Unless things take a turn for the even worse I'm expecting a season long fight for 6th with Villa and Everton. Lose Torres in January and we're looking at top 10 imo.
 
Managers do make me laugh sometimes...

"Ferguson said: ‘I have watched it again. Fernando Torres made a meal of it.

'An absolute meal of it. There is no doubt he tried to get the player sent off.’"

What is it they say about glass houses and stones? I mean Nani certainly never makes an absolute meal of things does he...nor did Ronaldo. Tell you what Fergie, clean your own team of such things and then maybe, just maybe you would have the right to complain about it. Until then stop being such a hypocrite.
 
Unless things take a turn for the even worse I'm expecting a season long fight for 6th with Villa and Everton. Lose Torres in January and we're looking at top 10 imo.

I think that once Torres finds out that Hicks has kept control of Liverpool (which is looking likely) he will request a January transfer. (I doubt he will be the only one either). Right now I would predict finishing 8th.
 
I don't understand why people are still talking bout O'Shea being sent off. Torres hasn’t even touched the ball. Don't think you can call it clear goal scoring opportunity if player doesn't have the ball under control.
 
I don't understand why people are still talking bout O'Shea being sent off. Torres hasn’t even touched the ball. Don't think you can call it clear goal scoring opportunity if player doesn't have the ball under control.

Of course you can.
 
He's The most successful senile, hypocritical old fool I know of in the game. Still if it make you feel good to whine knock yourselves out. You need something to cheer yourselves up I imagine.
 
It was a very similar situation to the Owen/Carragher situation at Anfield last season. It could have gone either way.

Needless to say every Manc that day thought Carra should have been sent off and I remember Taggart doing some sort of chicken dance on the touch line when Carra only got a yellow Or maybe he was upset at Owen making a meal of it ;)
 
Of course you can.

Right so if the attacker doesn't have the ball and the ball is never going to reach him because VdS was getting there way before him anyway, it's still a red card?

There will be an awful lot of sending offs if that's the case :/
 
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