Hamburg were upwardly mobile as i remember?
"Hamburg
By now his performances were attracting interest from some of Europe’s top clubs. He had previously been strongly linked to AC Milan, but in the summer of 2005 he signed for Bundesliga outfit Hamburg SV. . Van der Vaart's €5.5 million transfer to Bundesliga club Hamburger SV, on 1 June 2005,[11] raised many eyebrows. Many other top-flight clubs had shown interest in the midfielder but he chose Hamburg. The Ajax legend Johan Cruyff himself commented in his De Telegraaf column, "I don't know what to say about it or what Rafael van der Vaart is doing in Hamburg."[10] He played a massive part in Hamburg’s impressive away form that season, scoring in each of their first four games on the road; in fact, in the course of his first one and a half seasons with the German club, they did not lose a single match away from home while he was on the pitch. Van der Vaart finished his first season as the team's top scorer as Hamburg finished third in the league and won the 2005 UEFA Intertoto Cup. "
ripped from Wiki, but if you'd at least read up before commenting, it might help you to make more logical sense.
So not only was it a surprise that he moved there, he chose to. and then became the top scorer for the club from midfield.
and then he was clearly in poor form:
"In October 2008, Van der Vaart was one of the many La Liga players to be nominated for the Ballon d'Or "
hm. teribble player. definitely should not have been on fergies radar.
I agree we should have bought Ozil before we went for Carrick, oh hang on a second, he wasn't even in the first team back then and was only showing promise in a below par German League but whatever it's pointless arguing with you.
No, thats why its pointless talking to you. i never said we should have bought Ozil instead of the Carrick. The carrick deal was already done years ago.
I said that KNOWING we have only Carrick and Scholes as senior central midfielders, i.e not instead of but inspite of them.... and given that Scholes doesnt have the benefit of Youth and that as Carrick lacks the benefit of ability - BOTH positions in the first team should have been up for grabs. Clearly, im a fan of Anderson, but he isnt where Van der Vaart is skill or impact wise atm. And Fletcher needs 2 men with him to be effective and Gibson? kthxbye.
But of course, you will go on to say that no - our central midfield isnt in a right mess? and that ozil, NOR vdV would have been a hugely influential addition to our squad, for bargin basement prices.
Because fergie is the best, did you not know? he isnt a clairvoyant. How was he supposed to know that Carrick would be lucky to get a game vs Wolves in the legue cup? or that our season would be carried by Nani and ... Berbatov?
Should your username be changed to utter ****ing ****hole so we all have an apt username?
ah so are you waiting to leave to tell me what you think or are you giving it all up on the 51st date?
have you ever gotten out of bed and though, ill try and go a day without swearing? or without getting wound up? you might find that one small lifestyle change can make a big difference to your life.