Every league has boring games.
English League isnt the best in the world
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Every league has boring games.
Nearly every Premiership game I watch is identical and boring. Defend, defend, defend, don't lose, play for a draw. It's depressing to see teams more afraid to lose than motivated to win.
It just depends what you like. Is barca winning 6-0 every week more exciting than seeing a last minute winner for 1-0?
You watched it the last season? A lot of very exciting attacking teams, at least 7 or 8. Much more than the Prem
Serie A being the most boring i find...
Barca are in Serie A? I thought they were in La Liga :/
Serie A is just slower paced.
Decent season last season, as has been said some good attacking teams emerging.
Used to enjoy it because of "the special one" and his banter with the Italian media. There are some proper nutty fans in Italy as well, I really don't understand that English fans are the best, some of the stuff the South American / Italian fans get up to is brilliant.
Decent season last season, as has been said some good attacking teams emerging.
Used to enjoy it because of "the special one" and his banter with the Italian media. There are some proper nutty fans in Italy as well, I really don't understand that English fans are the best, some of the stuff the South American / Italian fans get up to is brilliant.
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i have noticed most of the high profifle foreign players that play or played for english teams are not doing to well
eg torres fabergas annelka ronaldo drogba to name a few
some exceptions are forlan and teves who ironically were not really rated at man u
eg torres fabergas annelka ronaldo drogba to name a few
some exceptions are forlan and teves who ironically were not really rated at man u
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Didn't mean to quote you on teams in Serie A, just responding to the general attack on the premier league.
I find most football pretty boring these days anyway, don't know why I'm defending it really. Haven't really enjoyed a game in a couple of years now.
I honestly don't know, habit maybe. I think being a Liverpool fan you have to expect not to really enjoy much football.
I think I keep watching in hope of a good game, as they do come along every now and then. I really enjoyed Arsenal Barca in the Champions League, and the World Cup has been alrigth since the first round.
Fantasy football keeps me watching too, lol.
Serie A has a slower pace but has been more attacking than anyone who doesn't watch it would dare give it credit for in the last four years - yes since that big scandal.
More goals than the EPL in 2006-07, 2007-08 and 2008-09 if I recall but significantly less in 2009-10 which is the season a few of you are saying was a lot more attacking than is previously the case. A bit odd on a statistical basis, no?
Anyone who says any of the leagues are defensive and as such boring and they won't watch them ought not to comment on the league as they're out of touch.
I don't watch the Premier League because I cry at some of the defending (or should I say lack of) and I don't like the super-fast pace but I can appreciate others find it incredibly exciting. I much prefer Spanish and of course Italian football. Serie A is the weaker of the three given the money issues and problems facing a few of the clubs but it isn't quite dead yet as Sky would have everyone believe seeing as how they don't show it.
Of course, no present day football compares to the epic games I watched in the mid 1990s. Memories...
More goals than the EPL in 2006-07, 2007-08 and 2008-09 if I recall but significantly less in 2009-10 which is the season a few of you are saying was a lot more attacking than is previously the case. A bit odd on a statistical basis, no?
Anyone who says any of the leagues are defensive and as such boring and they won't watch them ought not to comment on the league as they're out of touch.
I don't watch the Premier League because I cry at some of the defending (or should I say lack of) and I don't like the super-fast pace but I can appreciate others find it incredibly exciting. I much prefer Spanish and of course Italian football. Serie A is the weaker of the three given the money issues and problems facing a few of the clubs but it isn't quite dead yet as Sky would have everyone believe seeing as how they don't show it.
Of course, no present day football compares to the epic games I watched in the mid 1990s. Memories...
Try being a Leeds fan over the last decade :/
What coaching badges have you got out of interest? The FA Level 2 CCF (UEFA C) & NVQ3 ITC I recently achieved goes into a lot more than simply "Basic teaching routines".. On my courses, we studied, in depth things like match and player analysis, performance profiling, mental preparation and physiology, long term player development and things like injury identification and recognition, drugs and alcohol etc.
On the practical side of things, you learn about functional practices and phases of play along with small sided games and get drilled into you the 'principals of play' attacking & defending and really when your getting assessed then obviously you've got to be organised etc, but you could have the best ever planned session but you get assessed on your knowledge of the game and you have to be able and have the confidence to stop play and intervene and not only coach the player on the ball, but affect everyone around the ball, so it's far from a breeze to pass, so personally, in my experience, its a lot more than simply "Basic teaching routines" and that's just the UEFA C badge.
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The problem being who gets to mark your intervention and what you say, if Shearer is the guy marking the exam and giving the course, stopping a game and telling the striker to foul the defenders to put them off with a nice elbow will probably get you a high mark. AFAIK a lot of the places in the UK who run courses are often run by ex players/current coaches, and like anything else if a bad coach teaches you bad things and gives you bad pointers, and passes you because he thinks this bad advise is good, then thats not going to help anyone.
As for most of what you said, I've actually looked heavily into the coaching courses and have a VERY good idea what they entail, injury identification, not over training kids and the like still doesn't help you produce great players.
Almost everything you've described is the "basics" of the game, Alladyce can organise a well drilled defence, put together a team that works hard and makes it difficult to beat, but thats not the same as making great players, and improving a team to play better football capable of beating the best.
Knowing how to run a training session is one thing, knowing what the player needs to do to improve is a completely different, basically unteachable quality. You don't teach Fabregas the vision he has, you can get more out of him from training, you can teach him a better technique for shooting or teach him a well drilled midfield plan to work in, who closes when and where, but reading the game, spotting the danger, etc, thats pretty much down to the player.
That tends to be why Wenger always went for those "vision having" players as kids then tried to turn them into athletes, though lately he's reversed that, getting Walcott the athlete and trying to teach him when to pass, cross, and how to pass and cross and its failed miserably. Which should tell you maybe, that what really makes a great player can't particularly be taught.
But most certainly people should work out badges don't make a good OR bad coach, its a badge, its supposed to be the foundation for giving people a good grounding in what not to teach, and encourages(and is meant to) people to use the info to come up with their OWN training sessions afterwards, hopefully with a good idea of whats safe, and not, what can help with certain failings, IE poor passing, do passing technique training.
We have people with the highest Uefa badges, still teaching English players in the top league to just kick seven shades of **** out of each other.
A good coach who can nuture talent, or more importantly, spot inate talent in the first place will be a good coach without any badges and a bad coach could have all the best qualifcations in the world. Thats ignoring how relatively short and easy the courses are, with several premiership managers starting without the necessary badges, and doing in the region of 8-10 evenings on a course over a couple months and getting a badge.
The lowest badge IIRC is like 4 evenings, a couple training sessions a paper exam and a take a training session and be marked on it exam, you can do it in a week, the second and 3rd aren't much more but are certainly a level up. Uefa B is another level up but not massively so.
As for most of what you said, I've actually looked heavily into the coaching courses and have a VERY good idea what they entail, injury identification, not over training kids and the like still doesn't help you produce great players.
Almost everything you've described is the "basics" of the game, Alladyce can organise a well drilled defence, put together a team that works hard and makes it difficult to beat, but thats not the same as making great players, and improving a team to play better football capable of beating the best.
Knowing how to run a training session is one thing, knowing what the player needs to do to improve is a completely different, basically unteachable quality. You don't teach Fabregas the vision he has, you can get more out of him from training, you can teach him a better technique for shooting or teach him a well drilled midfield plan to work in, who closes when and where, but reading the game, spotting the danger, etc, thats pretty much down to the player.
That tends to be why Wenger always went for those "vision having" players as kids then tried to turn them into athletes, though lately he's reversed that, getting Walcott the athlete and trying to teach him when to pass, cross, and how to pass and cross and its failed miserably. Which should tell you maybe, that what really makes a great player can't particularly be taught.
But most certainly people should work out badges don't make a good OR bad coach, its a badge, its supposed to be the foundation for giving people a good grounding in what not to teach, and encourages(and is meant to) people to use the info to come up with their OWN training sessions afterwards, hopefully with a good idea of whats safe, and not, what can help with certain failings, IE poor passing, do passing technique training.
We have people with the highest Uefa badges, still teaching English players in the top league to just kick seven shades of **** out of each other.
A good coach who can nuture talent, or more importantly, spot inate talent in the first place will be a good coach without any badges and a bad coach could have all the best qualifcations in the world. Thats ignoring how relatively short and easy the courses are, with several premiership managers starting without the necessary badges, and doing in the region of 8-10 evenings on a course over a couple months and getting a badge.
The lowest badge IIRC is like 4 evenings, a couple training sessions a paper exam and a take a training session and be marked on it exam, you can do it in a week, the second and 3rd aren't much more but are certainly a level up. Uefa B is another level up but not massively so.
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