Man of Honour
I haven't watched the documentary (yet) but haven't we just been over much this same sort of ground a week or so back a la this thread?
well you may be from australia but personally, if you dont have a degree, an NVQ (or equivelant vocational qualification) or a trade (this includes proven history in domestic services, cleaning cooking ect, these are unnaccredited trades) as well as making english mandatory then anyone who doesnt meet all this can BUGGER OFF back to whence they came.
anyone claiming asylum for fear of their lives should be asked why the hell they went through germany, france and a number of other bloody places just to get their arses here. If their reasonings sound and they are genuinely running for their lives, then that shouldnt be a problem.
My father was English, and I'm a British citizen - so I have every right to live here for as long as I like, regardless of my qualifications.
But if it helps... I took a Bachelor of Arts degree in Australia, I have vocational qualifications, and I am returning to Australia in January 2009. Happy now?
Anyway, the UK's immigration situation should improve over the next few years, thanks to the "points-based" system that you've copied from my country. Your only problem is the EU member states. Can't keep 'em all out.
Agreed. This is one of the issues I have with the many so-called asylum seekers who attempt to enter Australia illegally.
But if it helps... I took a Bachelor of Arts degree in Australia, I have vocational qualifications, and I am returning to Australia in January 2009. Happy now?
p.s. what type of art are you into if you dont mind me asking ? any works on the net ?
well heres hoping the UK improves, and im glad we aggree on some things p.s. what type of art are you into if you dont mind me asking ? any works on the net ? p.p.s my previous post wasnt directed at you, just in general i did not mean to say you personally should sod off.
Don't forget that Enoch Powell was one of the first who let them in and then realised his mistake.
Powell = a filthy racist.
I don't want to get dragged into the flame war, but I'm studying an English degree, so hopefully my grasp of the sovereign tongue is better than most.
As far as I was aware, multiculturalism implies a diversity of cultures, nothing more. Integration implies a naturalisation to the local normal resulting in a homogenised culture.
So, you can't have multi-culturalism and integration?
You could however have a multicultural society based on similar core values where indivduals hold their own subset of morals and beliefs. The 'respect for fellow man, equality and freedom' sort of thing.
Shame really. He could foresee the problems mass-immigration would bring, it's just his speeches were tainted with references to race which make people hold views such as:
When he was asked if he was a racist in any sense, he gave this response:
"First of all I must define it because if by being a racialist you mean being concious of differences between men and nations, some of which coincide with differences of race, then we're all racialists I would have thought. But if you mean by racialist a man who despises a human-being because he belongs to a different race or if one man believes one race is inherently superior to another in civilisation or capability of civilisation then the answer is infatigably no."
He didn't dislike a man because of the colour of his skin. His disliked the idea of mass-immigration causing segregation and the tensions it would spark as a result of strain on services (well that's my take on it). It just so happened the people who were causing the mass-immigration weren't white.
He was wrong on some issues but was right on many others IMO. Interesting bloke.
He wasn't "one of the first who let them in". He played no part in the government's immigration policy.
Is it? Can you prove that 51% of all jobs created in the last 10 years went to immigrants purely as a result of positive discrimination?
Last time I checked, they went to immigrants because (a) most of them were unskilled jobs, (b) most of them were also extremely low paid jobs, (c) most of them were jobs that a lot of people didn't want to do, and (d) most of them were jobs for which a great many people were were overqualified.
That's got nothing to do with positive discrimination, and everything to do with market forces. These people aren't taking high-level white collar jobs from noble, hardworking white Britons; they're doing drudge work for rubbish money.
Why did Powell say "In 15 to 20 years, the black man will have the whip hand over the white man"?
Clearly, he was wrong. But why did he say it?
please tell me thats a joke.
Is it? Can you prove that 51% of all jobs created in the last 10 years went to immigrants purely as a result of positive discrimination?
Last time I checked, they went to immigrants because (a) most of them were unskilled jobs, (b) most of them were also extremely low paid jobs, (c) most of them were jobs that a lot of people didn't want to do, and (d) most of them were jobs for which a great many people were were overqualified.
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