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I had several of those batman games already but both me and my son got them anyway. Epic rocks.
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And yet this chagrin is mostly saved for when Epic do it.
Steam, humble bundle, windows store, GOG, GMG have ALL done such offers in the past (and others too I assume), they just have not done it with as many titles as epic.
Not aimed at any 1 person btw but the thing which grinds my gears most on stuff tends to be double standards, and there seem to be a lot of those flying around every single thing epic do.
(btw i am no Epic apologist either.... If we are gonna talk hypocrisy and double standards Tim Sweeney is right up there with the best of them).
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It's not a double standard at all, because there is a very real difference between other store fronts occasionally out of the blue giving something away for free, and a store saying "Hey, we are going to give games away every week/2 weeks for at least a year".
And I'm not even saying that is necessarily a bad thing - perhaps, as others have suggested, it will actually increase sales of sequels/future titles from those publishers etc.
This is unprecedented (especially given the quality of some of the titles given away); the comparison to the old 8/16 bit magazines giving stuff away was a very different time when (most) of those machines were coming to the end of their shelf lives, IIRC - something clearly not so with the PC.
Like I have said, things are changing and it is interesting to observe.
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Its funny because steam already did games for great prices and now theres serious competition we could see games becoming affordable on a whole new level
if anything, Steam are putting prices up. Some of the games on my wish list have been there for years waiting for the price to drop to my chosen level but it isn’t happening.
I do feel that Steam need to do something to address their pricing. Its a common held thought that the Steam sales have gotten worse, with less savings over the years. They need to react to the changing PC price markets more.
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From what I can tell the main reason people think the sales have gotten worse is that we've bought most of the games that we wanted... I can remember sales where I hoovered up 15 - 20 games for probably less than £5 each and was blown away by what great value it all seemed - a lot of those are still sat in my library now waiting to be played... many of the games I thought were a massive bargain at ~£10 when I bought them a few years back are equally sat unplayed and I see them come up in sales now for ~£3 and feel an idiot; but the point remains that there's only so much you can buy before the remaining games are all relatively new releases (which have never been afforded such deep discounts so early on)
Worth remembering also that a lot of Steam games aren't sold on Steam in the first place, a lot of mine in more recent years are from Humble or GMG or other places that seem able to do better deals
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Steam prices on new games are a bit OTT. I've got £30 worth of steam vouchers that i'm struggling to spend at the moment for instance.
I can put them towards DOOM: Eternal - But it's £49.99 on Steam.
I can buy a DOOM: Eternal CDkey for Steam, for less than £30 - So to buy it on Steam means I'm still having to shell out £20 of my own money and it feels like I'm wasting the vouchers.
I can put them towards DOOM: Eternal - But it's £49.99 on Steam.
I can buy a DOOM: Eternal CDkey for Steam, for less than £30 - So to buy it on Steam means I'm still having to shell out £20 of my own money and it feels like I'm wasting the vouchers.
this is the problem now. all people are going their own platform and charging more. for exclusivity. at first many welcomed epic because they thought it would bring competition. its done none of that if anything its made gaming dearer by making the games exclusive so they can charge what they want fixing pricing.
steam is a dinosaur over priced.
Its probably that and a combination of the overall buyers market changing...back in the early days Steam didnt really have much in the way of rivals for buying, so when they had a sale deals seemed great, trouble is that since those days we've seen the rise of things like Humble/GMG/GOG/Cdkeys/Kinguin/Voidu and so on. Which means today, we see a steam sale and the sale prices are no cheaper than what those other sites offer all year round. In some ways Steam have become the Marks and Spencer of game buying sites and we can simply get more for our buck from the Tescos/Lidl/Aldi/Morrisons etc of the gaming site world. If I was in charge of Steam I would look at addressing that but they could always decide to stick with its not just a video game, its a Steam video game
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Yes, the over-reaction of people who only use Steam does seem a bit strange, bearing in mind they are one of the more expensive places to buy games.
If I buy from CD keys, would I prefer a Steam Key? Yes
If it's cheaper on another platform, would I still want a Steam Key? No
If I buy from CD keys, would I prefer a Steam Key? Yes
If it's cheaper on another platform, would I still want a Steam Key? No
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Not a bad comparison really - some people just like M&S and are willing to pay a bit of a premium for the (albeit small) added convenience of using the posh shop they like to go to, maybe they make use of the pretty decent cafe that is there as well as picking up their shopping etc. but there's nothing at all wrong with people having the choice to shop at whichever store they choose to shop from... If Tesco suddenly strike a deal with the whole country's dairy industry so that no matter which shop you prefer to shop at, you'll also have to stop in at Tesco for your milk - that is not good for the consumer; it's annoying (even if it might be lucrative for the dairy farmers too, and even if Tesco charge less for milk than the other stores used to)
... and that's fair enough too but not quite that simple. If it's cheaper on another platform by a pitifully small amount like £1, and you don't currently have that platform for anything else, would you still want to bother? At what point does the saving outweigh any inconvenience? The answer is going to be different for everyone (and like the M&S shoppers in the analogy above they may be willing to pay even quite a bit extra for the convenience they want)...
Most people's issue is having the choice taken away from them, and the reasons for that should be obvious (can you really be sure that if Epic succeed and become the monopoly they desire that they will carry on offering great prices to the consumer forever? They certainly won't have to if you've got no other choice)
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Steam have been around for something like 15 years. It's reported to bring in revenue of $4 billion a year and rising.
I don't think Epic are going to become a monopoly.
If it was £1 extra on Steam, i'd probably get it on Steam.
I don't think Epic are going to become a monopoly.
If it was £1 extra on Steam, i'd probably get it on Steam.
Funny to think how it was once the go to thing of slagging Steam, then Origin became the go to slagging train now it seems to be Epic.
Where is it £30 though? The cheapest I can see it from a legit seller is slightly under £40. I agree steam pricing is a bit high, but you still can't expect them to compare with grey market sellers like cdkeys
Yes exactly this, it's about choice. I have no issue with multiple launchers or using epics launcher, it's purely the exclusivity.
I've always preferred my games on Steam but wouldn't pay much extra for that convenience. I remember GTA V at launch for example, an extra £10 for a steam key, so I went with the rockstar launcher version. At least I had a choice.
Happy and impressed with the freebies though, I'll keep hoovering those up.
The reason is steam used to implement sales, but then sales were moved over to publishers to decide for themselves, some publishers do regular sales, others are not interested, which is why some games seem to be perpetually on sale and other are never below full price.
On the old system I dont know if steam compensated publishers for the price drops or if they were simply forced to take a hit, but thats why the sales arent as good as they were many years ago.
Still steam has nearly always been consistently cheaper than console for games.
Epic pricing in my view is not proven sustainable its been subsidised by profits from fortnite and Tencent.
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Something EGS SHOULD have had from the start. Cloud saving was only a recent addition.
For 2019, to launch WITHOUT cloud saving is a joke.
And the pricing:
Epic are truely on the side of the gamers.
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Something EGS SHOULD have had from the start. Cloud saving was only a recent addition.
For 2019, to launch WITHOUT cloud saving is a joke.
And the pricing:
Epic are truely on the side of the gamers.