Wouldnt hit a woman but why would you feel the need to hit his new partner.
i didnt say i felt the need, it came up in conversation i dont see the point in repeating (loonng story)
Equal rights, equal... hitting?
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i didnt say i felt the need, it came up in conversation i dont see the point in repeating (loonng story)
Only if the woman is armed and close enough to do damage (ie. trying to stab me or cave my head in with a skillet) otherwise just walk (or run 
) away.
Edit: Same for a male really, no need for violence unless its really threatening
) away.Edit: Same for a male really, no need for violence unless its really threatening
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punching another bloke doesnt make anyone hard.. i wouldnt look at a man with any admiration for hitting another man. as someone just said, i think its more a strength issue, it seems. and generally, men are stronger than women. therefore, restraint? same as if a bloke was stronger than the guy trying to hit him... i wouldnt expect him to just attack him back, ide expect him to just try and stop him!
How did this conversation come up in the first place?
loonnng story... complicated, not really in need of repeating
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I think that's about right. If it were a small man who had attacked your girlfriend then practically no-one would have a problem with punching him as hard as you could rather than restraining him. I think too many people retain the idea that because women generally don't attack people that they should therefore never be hit. The fact is, if women start fights and act like thugs then they should be treated as such if you ask me, just as a man should.
EDIT: as a side point, abuse within relationships of men by women partners is rife, and I wouldn't expect them to be treated any differently than men, so why should physically aggressive women be let let off in other circumstances?
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agreed. i think its less to do with gender, as you have now pointed out (and made my own thoughts clearer) tis to do with how strong one or the other is. and the other, that i was in this conversation with, is clearly convinced he is stronger than me, but also believes he would be very willing to hit me. thats the part that didnt make sense to me.
Only if the woman is armed and close enough to do damage (ie. trying to stab me or cave my head in with a skillet) otherwise just walk (or run
hitting if you are being stabbed is forgiveable, i suppose...
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I dont mean to stir things up, but its funny women always want equality in everything, but when it comes to hitting its still a complete no no.
I personally wouldn't hit a woman either, I just find that point, kind of ironic.
I personally wouldn't hit a woman either, I just find that point, kind of ironic.
you can have equality, whilst remembering that women and men are very diffrent and suited to diffrent things. Just some seem to have forgot this.
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I know what you mean, but with things like this i don't feel it can ever be properly equal.
You mean like how men are better at voting, undertaking paid employment and fighting wars while women are better suited for needlework, flower arranging and making babies?
The way I see it if someone starts throwing punches then they are asking for trouble. Just because someone is a weakling (regardless of gender) it doesn't mean they have carte blanche to go around assaulting people with no fear of reprisal. In the heat of the moment while my partner is getting beaten up I'm not going to stop and assess their physical prowess relative to my own and make a calculated decision as to how much force I should be exterting.
The only exception would be in a situation where I felt using too much force could backfire - e.g. if there were a load of blokes nearby who were likely to attack me if I hit a girl. Then I might hold back a little to avoid it escalating out of hand.
i had this situation a few days ago...
some random woman shoved past my very pregnant fiancee.
Me, being me, said in a nice loud voice "excuse me wouldn't go amiss", then said random woman sarted mouthing off about "why should I have to say excuse me to you"... to which i laughed my head off...
more shouting from woman, more laughing from me. she then proceeds
to get right in my face and scream "**** off" (and I do mean scream).
Fiancee tells her to **** off (it takes rather a lot to rattle her into any form of anger etc)
Now, said woman is of rather hefty build, and threatens to take a swing at my fiancee. I inform her she does that, and i will crack her one.
she swings, i plant her.
anyone have a problem with that? The police don't (i was surprised tbh, copper told her to "**** off home and stop being so stupid" when she said she wanted me charged, and elaborated when she kept banging on, that she would come off a LOT worse than me in court)
In certain (rare) situations, i will hit a woman. IF, and only IF it is absolutely needed. Someone going for a pregnant woman is one of them.
on a side note, me and the fiancee saw her and her other half in town today. cue much mouthing from partner, (I laugh, i tend to do that) partner swings, i put him on his behind and guess what, he gets nicked for assault. Lovely outcome methinks...
some random woman shoved past my very pregnant fiancee.
Me, being me, said in a nice loud voice "excuse me wouldn't go amiss", then said random woman sarted mouthing off about "why should I have to say excuse me to you"... to which i laughed my head off...
more shouting from woman, more laughing from me. she then proceeds
to get right in my face and scream "**** off" (and I do mean scream).
Fiancee tells her to **** off (it takes rather a lot to rattle her into any form of anger etc)
Now, said woman is of rather hefty build, and threatens to take a swing at my fiancee. I inform her she does that, and i will crack her one.
she swings, i plant her.
anyone have a problem with that? The police don't (i was surprised tbh, copper told her to "**** off home and stop being so stupid" when she said she wanted me charged, and elaborated when she kept banging on, that she would come off a LOT worse than me in court)
In certain (rare) situations, i will hit a woman. IF, and only IF it is absolutely needed. Someone going for a pregnant woman is one of them.
on a side note, me and the fiancee saw her and her other half in town today. cue much mouthing from partner, (I laugh, i tend to do that) partner swings, i put him on his behind and guess what, he gets nicked for assault. Lovely outcome methinks...
tbh
Sounds a bit far fetched to me...
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I approve of your 'laughing to get idiots arrested' strategy.
If an ex girlfriend came up to me and a current girlfriend and hit her, I wouldn't give her a full on punch, but she'd get a backhand slap definitely. You cannot go around and hit people because they're going out with an ex, no matter what your feelings are.
If you initiate a fight, you forego the rights for men v women imo.
I would never hit a woman first though. That is something that just isn't fair, and if doing it in retaliation, I would only do so if I was being injured by the attacks (eg: scratching eyes etc.)
Still, anyone who hits a current girlfriend of mine isn't going to be let off.
If you initiate a fight, you forego the rights for men v women imo.
I would never hit a woman first though. That is something that just isn't fair, and if doing it in retaliation, I would only do so if I was being injured by the attacks (eg: scratching eyes etc.)
Still, anyone who hits a current girlfriend of mine isn't going to be let off.
i think pregnant fiance is a very different situation...
it might change things if the entire situation could be explained without launching a personal attack. but it cant, really, so i wont. but i shall simply say ive taken a lot of abuse from said ex in the past, and the girl in question that this came up over was an ex of his, and the one he was seeing behind my back.
im really, really not one for just launching attacks on people. this conversation came up purely through annoying chance, and the outcome, that he would hit me over someone he is seeing (not in love, just seeing)....completely surprised me. i just wondered how views have changed, if at all, because if my own families standards are anything to go by, there is never an excuse for a man to hit a woman. i personally think there are exceptions, but the general idea still sticks..