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Not sure if people have seen this.

www.bbc.co.uk

Erik ten Hag: Decision over Manchester United manager 'not my call', says Sir Jim Ratcliffe

Manchester United co-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe says the future of under-pressure manager Erik ten Hag is "not my call".
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I think logically it will be his decision (with Glazer agreement) but they'll be guided on it by Ashworth & co. Not really much he can say, but a few interesting points -

Asked if he still had faith in former Ajax boss Ten Hag, Ratcliffe told BBC Sport: "I don’t want to answer that question."

"But that team that's running Manchester United has only been together since June or July. They weren't there in January, February, March or April – [CEO] Omar [Berrada], [sporting director] Dan Ashworth - they only arrived in July.
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Ashworth and Berrada both commented a few weeks ago that they weren't officially in post when the decision to keep Ten Hag was made, I think that's deliberate framing on their part.

Also -

United’s executive committee have a long-standing meeting in the diary for Tuesday, which will bring together part-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Sir Dave Brailsford, as well as recent appointees including chief executive Omar Berrada, sporting director Dan Ashworth and technical director Jason Wilcox. United co-chairman Joel Glazer is also flying in from the United States to attend. There is scheduled to be a Manchester stop for meetings, too.


Somewhat speculative, but you'd expect the current form will be a topic of discussion... ultimately are they prepared to finish in the bottom half the table as things stand? That would be disastrous.
 
Joxeon said:
The club needs some stability and the defence sorting out and Southgate brings both of those.
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Not convinced really.

International management differs from club management. I don't think its the right fit for Southgate (I did that without any silliness!).

Figure what we'll see is a couple of months with RvN until the club, hopefully, find the right person.

Safe to say there is a lot of work to do no matter who they appoint.
 
GarethSouthgate said:
What record does he have of building stability and defence in the EPL? Actually, at any club, any league.
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They have burnt through managers with that experience and it did nothing for them other than emptying the bank account. Why not try something different. I'm not convinced Southgate would be much worse than what's gone before him, he would also be a ton cheaper.
 
GarethSouthgate said:
What record does he have of building stability and defence in the EPL? Actually, at any club, any league.
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tbf England was a mess when he took over, probably even worse than Man U but he steadied the ship. I don't think he's a long term solution but he could come in and sort the defence out and bring back some stability.
 
I think you could make an argument for Southgate as interim manager until the end of the season. The England job has some similarities in terms of pressure and other problems. However, as a long term appointment it would be potentially horrifying. It's only early in the season so they'd be better off going for a proper appointment, if a manager was available. Ultimately they need to decide how they want the team to play, and look at the sort of players we have, and find a manager who suits...
 
Tournament football is not equivalent to the EPL.

Appointing Southgate would suggest that he's a better manager than ETH. What logic leads to this statement? He underperformed with the best England squad in years? Had some of the best players in the world at his disposal, if he can't do it with them what's he going to do with United? Defend our way to a mid-table finish (which is probably realistic tbf).

Surely the preference is Ruud as a caretaker manager, he has the Dutch connection also, given all the players have played there, would bring a feel-good factor, in the short term at least. I'm not sure what Southgate brings other than the threat of relegaton ala Boro.
 
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Some reports are emerging that RvN will get it when they sack ETH.

www.mirror.co.uk

Ruud Van Nistelrooy feelings on replacing Erik ten Hag as Man Utd manager emerge

The former Manchester United striker will be offered the manager's job on an interim basis if Erik ten Hag is sacked after Sunday's trip to Aston Villa
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I think they'll have another chat with Tuchel and see if something can be worked out. There's talent in the squad and he's a top manager who is available. I am well aware of his issues, but it's literally impossible for him to be any worse.
 
Wonder if Zidane would be worth a shout?

I know he's only managed RM from what I know, which is a different league and players etc. but winning the CL and LL a few times isn't bad going..
 
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