EU Speed limiter

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Seemed like this was an inevitability at some point with the way autonomous cars etc are heading, can't say I'm surprised.
 
At the minute the proposal is that there will be an on/off switch available and drivers can over ride the system by pushing hard down on the accelerator, of course it's just one small step to remove that ability
 
At the minute the proposal is that there will be an on/off switch available and drivers can over ride the system by pushing hard down on the accelerator, of course it's just one small step to remove that ability

The proposal aims to make it a fundamental part of the car system, which will no doubt become more invasive with iterations, rather than like VincentHanna is talking about which is a feature level package that is fully turned off by default.
 
If they make it an optional extra than I am fine with it. If they force it on us the the consumer will end up paying for it.
 
At the minute the proposal is that there will be an on/off switch available and drivers can over ride the system by pushing hard down on the accelerator, of course it's just one small step to remove that ability

Don't forget the compulsory data recorder / black box in every car. I'm sure your insurance company will love the fact that you have deliberately overridden the speed control system.

I agree with the AA's sentiments in that this halfway house of automation and manual control is potentially going to make driving standards worse. There are some nsl roads where you would be an idiot to do more than 30, some 30's where you shouldn't be above 20 and yet doing 80 on a quiet motorway isn't exactly an issue. Now you are just going to get even less attentive drivers blindly sitting with their foot on the pedal because the car decides the speed they drive at.

Automation is coming but until it is ready you need to driver to keep some responsibility and I really don't get the EU's obsession with controlling everything, perhaps they do want us to leave after all :p
 
Don't forget the compulsory data recorder / black box in every car. I'm sure your insurance company will love the fact that you have deliberately overridden the speed control system.

Now I've actually read the article, this is the bit that concerns me. There's no mention of whether there is any call-home functionality here. Evidence of driver behaviour after an accident is one thing but potentially tracking where you are at any time is a bit 1984 - at least for those of us that don't have smartphones or location services on 24/7 at least. :)

Don't want to sound like a CT type but there will be scope creep.
 
Ummm, aren't you already restricted in HGV's.....
Yes.

HGV speed limiters are a fixed upper limit not something that adjusts autonomously.
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Did people also yap when speed limiters were mandated for HGVs?

You have no right to mishandle a vehicle on a public road. You’ll just have to go vroom vroom around a closed airfield somewhere.
They yapped massively, strangely enough though the industry just gets on with it these days, it’s a bit different with a 38ton (as they were when limiters were introduced) truck, at full weight down hill doing 70+ mph (as an unrestricted truck will easily do) you’ve got no chance of stopping if you had to which is why limiters were introduced.
 
Who's angry? I'm concerned about not only this, but the ideological stance the EU takes on managing it's citizens, personal freedoms are not a consideration.

This isn't particularly an EU thing. The UK government is just as bad and even worse in most cases when it comes to citizens rights and freedoms.

The UK will support this regardless of whether we are in or out of the EU because they will want (need) to align with the regulatory framework which gets put in place and also because they want more stringent controls than even the EU advocate - look at the recent UK support Article 13 or the 'porn block' for example. If we were in the EU, then the UK would have an opportunity to not support this bill if people engaged with their representatives but as it stands, we will just take it on regardless because our government wants it and people don't understand how the EU works.

edit: Regarding being angry, look at some of the comments in this thread - I don't mean you necessarily - but people seem to be so "outraged" at this without looking at the detail and jumping to conclusions that suit their political bias.
 
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The proposal aims to make it a fundamental part of the car system, which will no doubt become more invasive with iterations, rather than like VincentHanna is talking about which is a feature level package that is fully turned off by default.

They already plan to make it something you can't turn off later on.
 
Idiots thinking this is an EU thing are laughable, really are dense.

This has NOTHING to do with the EU, really ******* tired of this level of poor debate.

This is another organisation entirely removed and something we won’t be leaving.
 
Idiots thinking this is an EU thing are laughable, really are dense.

This has NOTHING to do with the EU, really ******* tired of this level of poor debate.

This is another organisation entirely removed and something we won’t be leaving.

Your deluded.
 
It is not, it just advises the EU because it just so happens to be the majority of Europe (perhaps ‘entirely removed’ was exaggerated), it’s a pointless note to make, but it’s happening regardless and the only people you should blame are yourself for not speaking to your MEPs and MPs to get rid of it.

But that requires effort, and wouldn’t allow you to moan constantly.

You keep voting for authoritarians and expect elsewise, you’re deluded.
 
It is not, it just advises the EU because it just so happens to be the majority of Europe, it’s a pointless note to make, but it’s happening regardless and the only people you should blame are yourself for not speaking to your MEPs and MPs to get rid of it.

But that requires effort, and wouldn’t allow you to moan constantly.

This.

It's far easier to get angry and moan about things than it is to engage. Always someone elses problem.
 
They would if you even bothered. And by bothering i mean huge campaigns, a single person sending an angry letter is always going to be ignored.

Seems people just don’t deserve democracy.

Would they? If only they would listen to huge campaigns, like a national referendum.
 
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