Euro 2012 Qualifiers 2/3/6 September ** Spoilers**

Cesc with another ruddy goal, what is it now, 3 in 4 games and an assist, and he was heavily involved in the build up to the goal anyway :(

As good as he is, he's still under rated by most, he's going to be freaking epic for Barca this year.

EDIT 10 for Holland
 
Cesc with another ruddy goal, what is it now, 3 in 4 games and an assist, and he was heavily involved in the build up to the goal anyway :(

As good as he is, he's still under rated by most, he's going to be freaking epic for Barca this year.

EDIT 10 for Holland

I think he is already borederline epic for them!

Its a simplistic comparison and im not comparing the two players but when Young has played for us (Man Utd) he looks like he has stepped up 20% from being at Villa. Fabregas looks he same at Barca. It might be the same games they are playing but maybe it just better players round them.
 
Germany now 5-2 up against Austria. Goetze comes on for Kroos, their kids are crazy good, can't wait to see Germany and Spain play each other in the future.

FA confirm they've reported racist abuse allegedly directed towards Ashley Young by Bulgaria fans during the Euro 2012 qualifier in Sofia.

:mad: Some countries are so backwards!
 
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Oh it is that, neither has improved its just with better passes into their runs, and better runners on the end of their passes the end result improves but the passing/crossing/shooting is the same as ever.

I've always thought Cesc is epic, he's for me, the absolutely undisputed best central midfield in the world, and had he been at ARsenal a few years earlier(not at 13, if he were a bit older :p ) and had won things with us people would realise just how really stupidly good he is.

THeres a reason Barca were saying they can't wait for him to join, they know exactly how good he is.

The sheer amount of chances Cesc creates that our team screwed up was almost incomprehensible, I think the stat is for 5 years or something he's made the more chances than anyone else, and I'm sure must have more assists than anyone else in that time aswell.

I think people don't realise exactly how massive a difference he's made as the team around him has gotten worse, and frankly this year, Barca are going to be even better because he's there. I think I'd have prefered to see him go to Real, just because Barca are TOO dominant, its a bit, dull, Real with Cesc onboard would be a real match for Barca/

Red card in the Spain game now, Chile down to 10.
 
So that is 32 Goals in seven games for the Netherlands now. Conceding five. Utterly deserve their world number one ranking. Not the toughest group in the world but to be so consistent is great.
 
So that is 32 Goals in seven games for the Netherlands now. Conceding five. Utterly deserve their world number one ranking. Not the toughest group in the world but to be so consistent is great.

lol, they don't deserve to be world no 1 AT ALL. Their group is a joke but Spain are simply better, don't have San Marino in their group, and won the Euro and world cup, honestly till Holland can beat Spain in the Euro's they don't deserve to be world no 1 in any way shape or form.

Look at the goal difference for the rest of the group, 3rd has won 2, lost 4, but has a even gd, because of San marino.

Good team, but its against good teams it stops working for them and they go into "kick the crap out of them" mode.

lol, of the 32, 16 have come against San Marino, and that 5-0 was a pretty damn good result for them aswell :p

EDIT:- Penalty for Spain, Cesc to take it maybe, Torres, red card for someone on the bench complaining :p

Cesc with 4 goals in his last 4 games, though he made a meal of that penalty :p From the replay I think it was a complete and absolute dive from Arbeloa I think.
 
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Oh it is that, neither has improved its just with better passes into their runs, and better runners on the end of their passes the end result improves but the passing/crossing/shooting is the same as ever.

I've always thought Cesc is epic, he's for me, the absolutely undisputed best central midfield in the world, and had he been at ARsenal a few years earlier(not at 13, if he were a bit older :p ) and had won things with us people would realise just how really stupidly good he is.

THeres a reason Barca were saying they can't wait for him to join, they know exactly how good he is.

The sheer amount of chances Cesc creates that our team screwed up was almost incomprehensible, I think the stat is for 5 years or something he's made the more chances than anyone else, and I'm sure must have more assists than anyone else in that time aswell.

I think people don't realise exactly how massive a difference he's made as the team around him has gotten worse, and frankly this year, Barca are going to be even better because he's there. I think I'd have prefered to see him go to Real, just because Barca are TOO dominant, its a bit, dull, Real with Cesc onboard would be a real match for Barca/

Red card in the Spain game now, Chile down to 10.

I dont think its too simplistic to suggest that the fact hes walked into a team where "he wont get games" and made an impact speaks volumes. If nothing else it makes him hard to drop.
 
Busquets, and Arbeloa are pretty much scum, Iniesta is a bit of a cheat, great play from Iniesta but he was clearly playing for contact, then got in his face and then Arbeloa I think was it came in barging people starting a ruck, then Busquets went and did the same. Was also Arbeloa who dived for the penalty, I don't remember him being such a scumbag at Pool to be honest, maybe he was and I didn't notice. He's learning from Pepe, and Marcelo, Ramos and busquets now so it shouldn't be surprising.

Oh, Ramos ran over and shoved someone to the ground.

While Spain/Barca are great theres a few players I absolutely can't stand.
 
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