Europa Universalis IV

It's not usually worth losing an alliance and declaring a truce break union war as you'll eat far too much stability and AE.

If you want to PU someone best to just remain RM'ed to them, then you can claim throne and attack without breaking an alliance.
 
Stayed up too late again :p

Hungary incorporated, Mantua the same and Palatine. Lost the Emperorship for a short while but got it back but the Empire is a mess because of the reformation fires, cannot counter that but took advantage to snap up some territory within the empire in the confusion as well as taking most of northern Italy.
 
My Austria game essentially ended in 1668. One of those games where Ottoman go mental and snowballed unopposed and decided I was their next whipping boy.

I controlled huge amounts of land by this point but couldn't take this juggernaut. Had a slim chance when Britain declared on my side but then France jumped in for Ottoman and essentially locked out Britain and I could not take Ottoman solo even with my other minor allies and junior partners.

Held out forever, completely bankrupting myself doing it but they were tossing round >250k and I could only field 130k at max so it was inevitable. Could have kept playing but they took half my empire, made me give up all my subjects, I was bankrupt, had rebellions all over the shop so just called it which was a shame :p

Find it strange the rest of the HRE don't auto help the emperor but ho hum. :p
 
In all the hours I've played I've never once seen Ottomans beaten, ever. Most I've ever seen is them pretty contained on my Georgia game where they struggled to make any real gains and pretty much remained as is.

Every other time I can remember they become a monstrosity.
 
Yep they usually become a monster in my games too, I don't remember them ever really doing badly.

I think it's because they are a power house in their area, and they are programmed to be really aggressive, so they just go from war to war.
 
No1newts said:
Ah right, no hadn't even heard of it :p

I want to play Stellaris and HoI as well but j never really get the time to game much these days so mostly stick with EU4.
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Welcome to PDX games. :D

OK, first. Imperator Rome is the baby child if you combine EU4 & CK2.
EU4 and CK2 are both a fantastic games however both lack things each other does best.
CK2 lacks the feel of expanding a country and empire through warfare.
EU4 lacks the ability to feel connected with your individual rulers, write and play their story, and that of your family through the centuries.

Combining both, we have now Imperator, which from the lets play videos, especially the Dev Clashes, is what I would love at first play. I would love to see where the game would be in 5 years with all the DLCs and expansions. However that doesn't mean I am not keeping sharp my skills on EU4 because if all goes well this November going to the Grand Lan Party at the castle in Silesia. (Poland)

Stellaris is great game if you like games in space. Is less complex than EU4.
HOI4, is an amazing game also if you want to delve into WW2 and combat tactics, unit compositions, production etc. However it's scope and timeframe is limited and doesn't feel that "Grand Strategy" like EU4 and CK2.
Both those games lack the diplomacy of CK2 and EU4 also. (FYI I have all 4 and pre-ordered Imperator)
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Regarding to PU questions raised before.
PU is tricky mechanic and cannot master if without having few hundred hours with the game. Directly conquest is the best.
Reason why Union through marriages is difficult, is that in EU4 you can lose track of who's who, compared to CK2.
Saying that Austria is the country if you want to expand without war by PU and assimilation of the whole HRE.

As for the Ottoman issues you and @HungryHippos have. You need to cure that cancer while Byzantium is still alive.
Guarantee Byzantium from the first day, and prepare for war. You do not have to conquer lands. Give everything to Byzantium or make new countries, no need to make vassals.
If you remove the Ottomans from Europe that way, they will collapse if left alone in Asia Minor. Is a war game, don't be afraid to lose few tens of thousands troops.

If you let Ottomans mop Byzantium they will be knocking the doors of Central Europe, and more likely gobble Russia in the process making them unstoppable. Especially when they expand against Mamluks after 1590 colonizing like mad in East Asia also.
 
It's not so much that I have personal problems with the Ottomans, but that I never ever seen them do badly.

I've seen France get destroyed, I've seen Castille get eaten by Granada, I've seen Austria get removed, I've seen Scotland beat England, I've seen PLC dominate the HRE etc. My main issue with this is that if I am playing elsewhere, then I normally wind up having to deal with them at some point, but I have not been in a position to do about it early game (for arguments sake, I am playing an OPM elsewhere in the world for instance).

Sometimes you can actually use them to help you, for example here I showed how I used them as a battering ram to get a good start as Hisn Kayfa! https://imgur.com/a/HILiX
 
HungryHippos said:
It's not so much that I have personal problems with the Ottomans, but that I never ever seen them do badly.

I've seen France get destroyed, I've seen Castille get eaten by Granada, I've seen Austria get removed, I've seen Scotland beat England, I've seen PLC dominate the HRE etc. My main issue with this is that if I am playing elsewhere, then I normally wind up having to deal with them at some point, but I have not been in a position to do about it early game (for arguments sake, I am playing an OPM elsewhere in the world for instance).

Sometimes you can actually use them to help you, for example here I showed how I used them as a battering ram to get a good start as Hisn Kayfa! https://imgur.com/a/HILiX
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Otto got some unwanted buff due to mechanics changes recently. If left without player interaction can grow big and scary.

If not hit with the bat before the take over of Byzantiim, next point in time going to be weak is 1660s, if hasn't gobbled Russia.
 
Panos said:
Moving your capital doesn't require DLC.
However has a set rules. Which country's capital you want to move and why?

FYI. Moving your home trade node needs Wealth of Nations.
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I've read up and understand more now.

I started a new Castille game and the Burgundy event fired really early and I now hold all Burgundian lands. I wanted to move capital into those lands (and thus be in HRE) and then gobble up smaller provinces in HRE to grow up in northern Europe but realise this isn't possible and can't switch capital into HRE.

As a workaround: is it possible to pull a land out of HRE, make that my capital, and then put that land back in HRE or are you not allowed to put lands into HRE unless you are a member?

It's not the end of the world and I will just hold the land of I have to as I'm allied with France but with France ally and no HRE push (unless France join me k guess) I'm just going to have to do normal Castillian expansion. Bit worried the Spanish civil war event will be harder to manage with split lands but let's see I guess.
 
No1newts said:
I've read up and understand more now.

I started a new Castille game and the Burgundy event fired really early and I now hold all Burgundian lands. I wanted to move capital into those lands (and thus be in HRE) and then gobble up smaller provinces in HRE to grow up in northern Europe but realise this isn't possible and can't switch capital into HRE.

As a workaround: is it possible to pull a land out of HRE, make that my capital, and then put that land back in HRE or are you not allowed to put lands into HRE unless you are a member?

It's not the end of the world and I will just hold the land of I have to as I'm allied with France but with France ally and no HRE push (unless France join me k guess) I'm just going to have to do normal Castillian expansion. Bit worried the Spanish civil war event will be harder to manage with split lands but let's see I guess.
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Castile is too big to become HRE member. Even Portugal is too big to be HRE member.
 
No1newts said:
Oh well, I'll just keep pally with France and punch the **** out of Austria and co if they mess :p
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Do not. Always break big countries. Always!!!!
Austria is not your enemy if you are Castile. France is, and going to backstab you the moment Austria is gone with the help of the Ottomans some times.
You need French territories to dominate the Genoan node, which is end node and the most profitable to grab the maximum amount from your colonies. With Aragon & Naples you get a great foothold to completely control 100% of it.

As Castile you should focus on PU Aragon & Naples, try to remove from the map completely Portugal (no vassal nothing, eradication as if you integrate them, Brazil would form if has colonies).
Push after that Morocco to break apart and feed all it's territories except those in your home trade node to an North African vassal which is needed. (you save admin and diplo points here).
Also you need to defend this vassal against rebels for 100 years or so, but is fine. You will annex this vassal when you move to Central Africa later on, so feed it everything.
By the time you finish with N Africa your vassal should expand from the West of Morocco, all way to Tripoli and the name of your country should be Spain owning the Italian peninsula.
That is why you need the PU with Aragon & Naples, and feed Naples the Italian peninsula when the Shadow Kingdom appears. (with the help of France initially).

When you mop 3/4 of Italy and feed it to Naples, except the HRE lands, keeping Rome as Papal state (preferably vassal) is the time to start chewing France.
You do not have to take everything. Just break him appart taking couple of territories every few years. Just to avoid coalition wars. (not that would be any)

EU4 is not Total War. Is better to annex vassals 50 years later, than gobble land fighting coalition wars for the next 100 years.
Also as Spain, if you want to take Rome you must become Protestant, or are not any big Catholics in vicinity after Reformation & Protestantism pop.
If you go for massive colonial expansion, you need to be Catholic, as only England will ignore you (if turned to Anglican), and any state from HRE that tries to colonize you get claim to completely remove it's colonies.

Colonial game as Spain/Castile. You need to block everything from Caribbean, Mexico and Chesapeake/Louisiana and Chile. After that expand in Africa.
(usually do 1 Africa, 2/3 in Americas even if you go over the limit) to build colonial nations fast.

Territories in Africa make them companies.


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Btw since you were talking about PU the other day, need to upload the image from the laptop. As a tiny Portugal PU France big blue blob (France/Castile/Aragon/Burgundy/Savoy) and won the war of succession from Brittany
However it was impossible to hold that humongous vassal, and after 60y got the event that broke PU. Need to continue that game, as I have the claim to force PU.
It would be interesting to see how much time it would take to annex the big blue blob since it is 1702. I bet 119 years by end of the game, won't be enough. :D
 
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