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European Grand Prix 2012, Valencia - Race 8/20
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its a different era now , they didnt have performance engineers back then who workout what the perfect setup is on a computer and then make it into a setup a driver can actually drive.
they also had a lot more time to work on setup and they didnt have to worry about a vastly changing fuel load , at most you would carry half a tank of fuel
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Autosport are seemingly saying something slightly different in that the team are going to take both LH's and JB's best setup (on Friday night I gess) and split the difference on both cars (so they both run identical setups )
They had a direct quote from Paddy Lowe , not sure how much good it will do but will be interesting none the less
Doesnt make sense to me, why not take the best for each driver and run that?
Maybe I am missing something, but what's the benefit of running the same setup on each car if it is a slight compromise for each driver?
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Button taking Hamiltons setup makes more sense than both drivers running a halfway house setup.
No it doesn't.
Por qué?
You can work that out yourself I would imagine, but if you need assistance let me know
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Quite a strange move imo - surely Button would be better off having one suited to his driving style?
just for reference I dont have Autosport, I was typing from memory after flying through the article in a newsagents - but that is certainly the gist I got from what Paddy Lowe is quoted as saying
(Maybe they already know its unlikely to be a good weekend for them, so they might as well try something like this that sounds like it would compromise bth drivers but hopefully assist JB in the long run)
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You can work that out yourself I would imagine, but if you need assistance let me know
It's pretty simple Button HAS been doing his set up style, and failing to match the cars performance spectacularly through most of the season. Hamilton has the car set up and but for a bunch of mistakes from his team he'd likely have a very nice lead in the championship at the moment.
Button's setup IS NOT WORKING, Hamilton's is, it makes FAR more sense to try Button on Hamilton's setup than vice versa.
It has no bearing on if Button's set up is suited to his driving, its not, people don't come in crying about their tyres every 10 laps when everyone else is managing almost half race distance on the same tyres. Button's setup is not suited to his, Hamilton's or the car's style, its not working there is nothing else to it. Button hasn't managed to set up his car all season, therefore trying someone else's setup, someone who has made it work all season, makes perfect sense.
Harming Hamilton's setup when he's had no problems makes no sense in any way at all, as for going half way, makes no sense. If one guy likes high rear wing and low front wing downforce and the other driver likes the reverse.... going half way inbetween doesn't split the difference, it simply creates a completely different balance to the car. You can't "split the difference", the car could be drivable at both settings and utterly undrivable with everything in the middle(it also could be, you never know).
Again you've got to think of it less that Button is setting it up perfectly for his style, he's just failing to set it up. If he is and his style fails miserably he HAS to change his style, most people are saying Hamilton has changed his style significantly this season, great drivers drive the car, not their own style, they can drive ANYTHING, any way, and do it well.
Button could find Hamilton's setup works brilliantly for him, setting up cars isn't a science. You might go out add drop a bit of rear wing, find the car doesn't hook up and you back off and add more wing, when in reality dropping a touch more wing and changing a couple other settings and the car simply works. If he's having trouble finding a great setup and then moving to a "safe" setup and Hamilton has it almost perfected it could work.
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It makes no sense if Jenson's setup is vastly different to Lewis's setup. I really doubt they turn up at a GP weekend with really different setup's anyway they know from the simulators and previous years how the car needs to be setup then tweaks for the driver depending on their style.
Jenson does not drive the car the way Lewis does.
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This is my thought too, I just don't see how it can work for JB - just shows how off the pace he is and how little they seem to be able to do about it.
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None of that is relevant, Button can't get the car working, Hamilton CAN, any driver can do what they want with the car. The only physical difference between the cars is the setup, Button can't get his working, Hamilton can.
I don't care how Jenson wants to drive the car in a perfect world where he is the only man on the track, he's a professional racing driver for Mclaren, he needs to get the best out of the Mclaren, nothing more or less. Button's prefered style has no relevance, if his prefered style isn't working, drive differently. Every other top driver in the world adapts to new cars, new rules, new series, new engines, new tyres... but Button shouldn't try alternate setups(ones known to work) because he doesn't LIKE driving that way. Boo hoo.
The fact is Button can try doing a few laps differently for the next 5 years and trying different setups, or he can use Hamilton's, which everyone can see is working with the car, and find a way to drive that setup. It's start from scratch, or use Hamilton's setup and play with the car till you can get it working, one could take forever, one shouldn't take long(for a top driver). The only thing we KNOW is whatever Button is doing, setup and driving, is not even slightly working. He can change setup and style of driving, or continue to look for 1-5 points a race if he's lucky.
Don't forget, I've been saying for 3 years, he's simply 3-4/10th's slower than Hamilton and isn't a very good driver, I still think that is personally the biggest cause. If Button and the team don't think that, trying Hamilton's setup and playing around till he can drive that setup well is realistically his only option.
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Off course it is relevant, you can't just take another setup from a very different driving style and think it's a magic fix.
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- +1 though!Was this practise or in the heat of battle?
Also, the video didnt show the car driving off...so not sure what went on there.
In any case, McLaren don't need to have the fastest pit crew - just a competitive crew who don't lose more than 2s to other cars.