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Vettel is a 4 time world champion and has been in f1 10 years, its obvious Lewis was going to slow down as he became the pace setter once the safety was going in
Poll: European Grand Prix 2017, Baku - Race 8/20
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Vettel is a 4 time world champion and has been in f1 10 years, its obvious Lewis was going to slow down as he became the pace setter once the safety was going in
But he didnt though, they said he was about the same speed as previous laps under SC.
Soldato
Hamilton was being cheaky there no doubt.
Vettel was a complete idiot for his reaction though
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it didn't seem to catch the other 15 cars behind Vettel.
Soldato
I prefer to use my own two eyes
He was at walking pace around that corner slowing down a bit is one thing and to brake check is another
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It is the lead drivers right to control the pace.
There's no denying Ham slowed at the corner but it is Vettels job to avoid punting him up the arse. If Vettel got angry, waved his arms and swore over the radio then who knows what the stewards would have done.
Driving alongside the car and swerving in to Ham was only ever going to end one way for him. Badly.
There's no denying Ham slowed at the corner but it is Vettels job to avoid punting him up the arse. If Vettel got angry, waved his arms and swore over the radio then who knows what the stewards would have done.
Driving alongside the car and swerving in to Ham was only ever going to end one way for him. Badly.
Soldato
So? Vettel should have allowed for that but he got too close.
Then your eyes will see the graphs showing it.
Vettel has no excuse...apart from anything where Ham actually slams on the breaks..he can crawl around corners if he wants, any pole position holder behind SC has that right.
There's a difference between brake checking and just not accelerating.
Hamilton didn't accelerate out of the corner to let the safety car go so he could nail it and not have to lift off again when he catches the safety car going into the pit lane which would have been much worse.
Vettel accelerated out of the corner and bumped into Hamilton the pulled alongside and decided that bumping wheels was the thing to do.
Stewards decided that it wasn't the thing to do.
I can see both of them being pulled up the the stewards for a little chat though. May possibly include further penalties.
Hamilton didn't accelerate out of the corner to let the safety car go so he could nail it and not have to lift off again when he catches the safety car going into the pit lane which would have been much worse.
Vettel accelerated out of the corner and bumped into Hamilton the pulled alongside and decided that bumping wheels was the thing to do.
Stewards decided that it wasn't the thing to do.
I can see both of them being pulled up the the stewards for a little chat though. May possibly include further penalties.
He didn't brake check, if he had he'd have got a penalty. You need to get to Specsavers.
Soldato
Definitely was being cheaky with that. It actually worked and he did catch vettel out.
My gut feeling was they were going to penalise both of them to make it even not to ruin the race or the championship.
When Hamilton was forced to pit they done the minimum to vettel
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Soldato
Yes he didn't brake check but he slowed down in a bad spot where it was hard to judge.
It was an acceleration zone as well so can be easy to catch out the driver behind.
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At the end of the day it's not going to be the last incident between them this season, it's only a matter of time before either one runs the other off the track, neither of them will give an inch and both will push the boundary of what is right. This was a slow speed incident my guess is they wont all be like that.
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Give over, he was mid corner.
He basically didn't accelerate and it caught Vettel out. No one else got caught out or intentionally rammed the other car because of it.
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Watch the on board footage with the brake pedal indicator.
Hamilton applied the brake very briefly in a very odd part of the corner exit.
However, vettel should know better than to push it that far from the safety car line.
6 of one, half dozen of the other.
The reaction though? Lucky not to get a black flag if you ask me.
Hamilton applied the brake very briefly in a very odd part of the corner exit.
However, vettel should know better than to push it that far from the safety car line.
6 of one, half dozen of the other.
The reaction though? Lucky not to get a black flag if you ask me.
Brake checking is slamming on your brakes unexpectedly and not giving the car behind any time to react, Hamilton just didn't accelerate out of the corner because he wanted to bunch up the pack and Vettel wasn't paying attention and accelerated into the back of him.
That's from the F1 2017 regs, I would say what hamilton did was borderline, he clearly didn't accelerate normally out of that corner, could have backed up after exiting the corner and avoided any shenanigans. Anyway it's not really relevant now the stewards have concluded the matter.