Poll: European Grand Prix 2017, Baku - Race 8/20

Rate the 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix out of ten

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I was wamring to Vettel over the last few seasons, but as soon as he is in a competitive car his personality is horrible and he turns into a real ****.

I've lost all respect for him with that incident, and I can't believe he only got a 10 second stop/go penalty. Also, it was given to him ages after the incident which gifted him a few laps of clean air so he could come out ahead of Hamilton.

He should have been black flagged or at the very least sent to the back of the grid on the restart.
 
Stewards decided that what Vettel did was potentially dangerous and thus the 10 second stop/go penalty.
Also 3 penalty points - taking him to 9. Another 3 and a race ban comes his way.

Waiting to see the full decision wording.
 
SS-89 said:
That's from the F1 2017 regs, I would say what hamilton did was borderline, he clearly didn't accelerate normally out of that corner, could have backed up after exiting the corner and avoided any shenanigans. Anyway it's not really relevant now the stewards have concluded the matter.
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He didn't have to accelerate normally out of the corner, as it says, the first car behind the SC dictates the pace. He didn't accelerate quickly out of the corner, and Vettel was too near and misjudged it and accelerated into the back of him.
 
If you run into the back of a car on the public highway who is at fault?
hmmm I know it was the guy in front so just in case it's unclear i will pull alongside and bump into him.

From a 4 time world champ that is very poor and sets a very low standard to others.
 
SS-89 said:
That's from the F1 2017 regs, I would say what hamilton did was borderline, he clearly didn't accelerate normally out of that corner, could have backed up after exiting the corner and avoided any shenanigans. Anyway it's not really relevant now the stewards have concluded the matter.
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He didn't have to accelerate normally out of the corner, as it says, the first car behind the SC dictates the pace. He didn't accelerate quickly out of the corner, and Vettel was too near and misjudged it and accelerated into the back of him.
 
Also vettel says " I have no doubt he brake-checked me. I didn't run into the back of him on purpose. There is then a chain reaction."...errr no one else went in to the back of anyone, just you mate.
 
I like what Hamilton had to say about Vettel. "If he's talking about being a man, we should settle it outside the car" or words to that effect. He also said that as a 4 times world champion and ramming his car that Vettel is not being a good role model and has disgraced himself today.
 
The strangest thing is people commenting on this (not here as such) thinking that Hamilton was brake testing him in the hope he would lose his front wing.....which is a totally stupid thing to do as odds are you will come off just as badly with rear floor damage , or probably a puncture if the wing catches your tyre. There is no reason Lewis would have done it for that reason. He was just taking it slow and bunching them up a bit, like all drivers do for all safety car restarts.
 
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Jono8 said:
The strangest thing is people commenting on this (not here as such) thinking that Hamilton was brake testing him in the hope he would lose his front wing.....which is a totally stupid thing to do as odds are you will come off just as badly with rear floor damage , or probably a puncture if the wing catches your tyre. There is no reason Lewis would have done it for that reason. He was just taking it slow and bunching them up a bit, like all drivers do for all safety car restarts.
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But you think it's obvious Vettel did a manoeuvre intentionally that could have come off just as badly for him too....that's still my slight doubt that it was intentional, even though I do accept it could have been a rush of blood to the head.

I totally agree Hamilton didn't brake test him, even though malt says there was a brief braking at an odd part of the corner and he didn't accelerate out of it, it was within his right to do so and it wasn't what I would class as erratic, it just caught Vettel out.
 
Freakbro said:
But you think it's obvious Vettel did a manoeuvre intentionally that could have come off just as badly for him too....that's still my slight doubt that it was intentional, even though I do accept it could have been a rush of blood to the head.

I totally agree Hamilton didn't brake test him, even though malt says there was a brief braking at an odd part of the corner and he didn't accelerate out of it, it was within his right to do so and it wasn't what I would class as erratic, it just caught Vettel out.
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Vettel's move was clearly just hot headed retaliation - perhaps thinking he would need a new wing now anyway so why not just bash into him. It is complete fantasy to think that before that, Hamilton was intentionally trying to damage Seb's front wing by not accelerating as fast as Seb wanted to out of that corner.
 
Folks, not sure if this was answered, but from one angle, when the Vettel/Hamilton incident happened, it looked like the safety car was long gone and more than 10 car lengths away from Hamilton.

Can anyone corroborate this and is this rule still in effect in F1?
 
Cavallino said:
Folks, not sure if this was answered, but from one angle, when the Vettel/Hamilton incident happened, it looked like the safety car was long gone and more than 10 car lengths away from Hamilton.

Can anyone corroborate this and is this rule still in effect in F1?
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Once the "safety car in this lap" message is read out then the lead car becomes the safety car until the safety car line is safely off track.
 
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