Euthanasia need to be considered in UK?

[iamtheoneneo]

Good finally!
I watched my mother live with cancer for years, get better, only for it to come back with a vengeance. She spent the better half of a year being pumped full of drugs to the point where she wasnt my mother anymore...She was alive, but she wasnt her and had no control of her destiny.

We all die, some in worse situations than others and we have the science to help us as much as possible, but to also end us in a quick effective way and we as intelligent beings should be able to use that if we want to.

 

[Mr Jack]

I still think there's a decent chance this will get voted down at third reading or run into trouble in the Lords. I can see there being 30+ MPs who voted for this time on the basis that they think the principle is sound but they have serious doubts about the law itself deciding that the problems in the law haven't been fixed through the Lords and Committee stages.

We shall see.

 

[Mr Jack]

Just hope we don't end up with the same situation as Canada.

What do you see as the problem with the situation in Canada? The data on who receives euthanasia seems fine to me.

 

[413x]

Good finally!
I watched my mother live with cancer for years, get better, only for it to come back with a vengeance. She spent the better half of a year being pumped full of drugs to the point where she wasnt my mother anymore...She was alive, but she wasnt her and had no control of her destiny.

We all die, some in worse situations than others and we have the science to help us as much as possible, but to also end us in a quick effective way and we as intelligent beings should be able to use that if we want to.

Same result for Gfs mum.
Who knows how much pain was behind the glazed over expressions. The drifting in and out of consciousness.

I never saw her at the bad stage. But from what gf has told me.. She wanted to go, until she could really make any sense at all.

As you say. She was gone long before she went. Utter cruelty.

 

[JonRGV250]

It’s gone through, and right result imo.

 

[StriderX]

Could have just had a Purge instead.

 

[Tykey]

Must admit I thought they'd vote against it, glad I was wrong, big hurdle passed today but more to come.

 

[Stoddy]

I am genuinely shocked as I thought it would get voted against.
On this last few pages alone I have read some heartbreaking posts from forum members who have had to sit and watch their loved ones suffer near the end of their lives. RIP to their loved ones

 

[SpellowHouse]

I am genuinely shocked as I thought it would get voted against.
On this last few pages alone I have read some heartbreaking posts from forum members who have had to sit and watch their loved ones suffer near the end of their lives. RIP to their loved ones

I don't really know what to think about it. It's not about the relatives, and they should just "man-up". It is terrible to watch a loved one die, but it's a part of life. Something we will all have to do. Cus I can't believe that many people will actually take to option for assisted dying.

I mean, my brother died a few years back, in about the most horrible way imaginable. There was no get out of jail free. No possibility of parole. He was dying and they could even accurately say when and how horrific it would be. And it was. It was also very traumatic for the relatives. Even though he had known this was coming for a year, when it actually did he was confused, traumatised, and IMO unable to make up his own mind about an assisted dying even if it was available back then. I suspect that it will only be used for people who have suffered years of horrible pain rather than my brother who only had a few months of it.

I dunno. We will see. I could easily be wrong, I am just thinking of my own experience.

 

[Stu999]

Could have just had a Purge instead.

Why not both? /Zoidberg

 

[adam cool dude]

I don't really know what to think about it. It's not about the relatives, and they should just "man-up". It is terrible to watch a loved one die, but it's a part of life. Something we will all have to do. Cus I can't believe that many people will actually take to option for assisted dying.

I mean, my brother died a few years back, in about the most horrible way imaginable. There was no get out of jail free. No possibility of parole. He was dying and they could even accurately say when and how horrific it would be. And it was. It was also very traumatic for the relatives. Even though he had known this was coming for a year, when it actually did he was confused, traumatised, and IMO unable to make up his own mind about an assisted dying even if it was available back then. I suspect that it will only be used for people who have suffered years of horrible pain rather than my brother who only had a few months of it.

I dunno. We will see. I could easily be wrong, I am just thinking of my own experience.

My father went in the same way. Although they had him on really strong morphine and he essentially went into coma and never woke up.

If anything that was assisted dying as he never woke up and died of starvation.

I was quite angry as I never got to say goodbye but I guess not many people do.

He knew his time was up but even to the end he didn't want to die.

 

[Mr Badger]

I want to be the first to wish bon voyage to the forums older members.

Would you like to compare lists?

 

[Btone]

glad it passed, wonder if scotland and ni will follow

 

[throwaway4372]

Scotland will do something different for the sake of being different like always.
NI will go awol like always.

 

[Jokester]

Scotland will do something different for the sake of being different like always.
NI will go awol like always.

We'll rachet it up a notch and let the state decide who to euthanise

 

[SpellowHouse]

Scotland will do something different for the sake of being different like always.

Free bottle of whiskey and remove the barriers on the Forth bridge.

 

[Hagar]

It is the choice that this bill gives to people that is so valuable. It is not a Labour thing to do which is a welcome thing, free will, members of parliament listening to their constituents and following that advice. It would never be compulsory but the fact that it is an option for incredibly poorly individuals may make people more likely to carry on until life becomes unbearable and then go peacefully.

 

[Jokester]

Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths

For the first time, the annual report delved into race and ethnic data of those who underwent assisted dying.

www.bbc.co.uk

!

 

[throwaway4372]

I think they want us to think that number is high and be somehow shocked and cautious about our bill.
My reaction is the opposite. That number is not even close to the percentage who die in miserable ways.

 

[GGizmo]

Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths

For the first time, the annual report delved into race and ethnic data of those who underwent assisted dying.

www.bbc.co.uk

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I just read the number quoted, shocking.

All disabled organisations are against this.

In my opinion euthanasia is a quick fix for a situation that should be dealt with by better palliative care.

The knock on effect of this cheap alternative is now palliative care isn't likely to improve. When you become an inconvenience to look after there is nothing to stop services being withdrawn from you so suddenly were the staff took you into the tv room for the day now they 'forget you' until midday, and if you eventually say something they reply "Well Sir, if you're really unhappy then have you thought about euthanasia?".