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So the Peugeot --- I plugged it in, then had to grab something from inside. As an experiment I started it up - all started as expected. I then couldn't engage gear (thank god, it was plugged in), but it did let me disengage the hand brake and roll? That seems pretty nuts given its an electric hand brake.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
400V will kill you regardless of the power. Human resistance of skin anything over ~60V is a problem even milli-amps.

How’s that for “relative” what ever that meant.
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It’s the current across the heart or the brain that kills you. The voltage just determines how crispy and twitchy you are whilst you’re dying.
 
Haggisman said:
I doubt rolling off his drive whilst plugged in would be particularly healthy to the charging socket...
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My point was if its a PHEV or BEV the fact its plugged in would mean the handcrake to hold the car should be maintained when cable present!

Ie its doesnt matter if BEV or PHEV
 
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Terminal_Boy said:
It’s the current across the heart or the brain that kills you. The voltage just determines how crispy and twitchy you are whilst you’re dying.
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Yes and the resistance of skin means theres a certain threshold to from an external voltage to have an effect. 101 of HV informed person.

You dont twitch so much with DC..
 
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The chat of the hand brake on cars... i have to say as much as i like our i3, the parking brake takes some getting used to.

when i stop the ipace, it stops and that is that, it keeps still, but our i3, i put it into park then turn it off and it rolls forward a small amount before stopping in place.

in reality it is likely less than 1/8 of a wheel turn, its a split second, but it never ceases to make me jump and think i am gonna roll into our house. i am just about used to it now after almost 3 months but it is a weird design (unless most automatic cars are like this and it is just the ipace which is the exception?)
 
bigmike20vt said:
The chat of the hand brake on cars... i have to say as much as i like our i3, the parking brake takes some getting used to.

when i stop the ipace, it stops and that is that, it keeps still, but our i3, i put it into park then turn it off and it rolls forward a small amount before stopping in place.

in reality it is likely less than 1/8 of a wheel turn, its a split second, but it never ceases to make me jump and think i am gonna roll into our house. i am just about used to it now after almost 3 months but it is a weird design (unless most automatic cars are like this and it is just the ipace which is the exception?)
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Sounds like most automatics if you put them into park but no handbrake; there's some slop in the gearbox which allows that little bit of "wobble"
 
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bigmike20vt said:
The chat of the hand brake on cars... i have to say as much as i like our i3, the parking brake takes some getting used to.

when i stop the ipace, it stops and that is that, it keeps still, but our i3, i put it into park then turn it off and it rolls forward a small amount before stopping in place.

in reality it is likely less than 1/8 of a wheel turn, its a split second, but it never ceases to make me jump and think i am gonna roll into our house. i am just about used to it now after almost 3 months but it is a weird design (unless most automatic cars are like this and it is just the ipace which is the exception?)
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Same with the Nissan. It's got a manual foot parking brake that I only ever use if I've parked on a hill.

My thoughts aboutthe PHEV was that it's potentially a manual (maybe?). So that car has less capacity to prevent you doing something stupid.
 
bigmike20vt said:
The chat of the hand brake on cars... i have to say as much as i like our i3, the parking brake takes some getting used to.

when i stop the ipace, it stops and that is that, it keeps still, but our i3, i put it into park then turn it off and it rolls forward a small amount before stopping in place.

in reality it is likely less than 1/8 of a wheel turn, its a split second, but it never ceases to make me jump and think i am gonna roll into our house. i am just about used to it now after almost 3 months but it is a weird design (unless most automatic cars are like this and it is just the ipace which is the exception?)
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On stopping my routine is to enable the handbrake, push P, then turn off.
With the i3, there seems to be too many common faults. I bought a later car to avoid those, expecting to be fixed over the years (since released 6 years earlier) but nope I'm on common issue no 2 already and the car has very low miles. Maybe just unlucky
 
DarrenM343 said:
On stopping my routine is to enable the handbrake, push P, then turn off.
With the i3, there seems to be too many common faults. I bought a later car to avoid those, expecting to be fixed over the years (since released 6 years earlier) but nope I'm on common issue no 2 already and the car has very low miles. Maybe just unlucky
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What issues have you had out of interest? i3 is on my shortlist, but it's dropping down the list pretty rapidly...
 
Oh Ed not again. said:
What issues have you had out of interest? i3 is on my shortlist, but it's dropping down the list pretty rapidly...
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A driver's seat that would move slightly and creak under acceleration/deceleration. The AUC sensor went bad but probably only something that would be picked up via diagnostics but symptom of that I believe is that the ventilation system might not auto recirculate if traffic fumes detected. This was diagnosed when I took it in for its end of warranty check. It's a common fault apparently. Both of these were warranty claims thankfully. Finally, recently the heating system has packed up. Still trying to investigate under what conditions it's no working as seems a bit intermittent. This is another common fault that starts intermittently apparently then fails and comes with repair cost likely over £1k as the part itself is £550 I think (the aux heater).

At least it hasn't suffered the front shock gaiter's splitting yet (another common issue) but probably as mine has only covered low miles so far.

Many others swear by their reliability however but I'm not overly impressed so far. I've owned it for three years but even so....and I've only done 4500 miles with the car.
 
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A driver's seat that would move slightly and creak under acceleration/deceleration. The AUC sensor went bad but probably only something that would be picked up via diagnostics but symptom of that I believe is that the ventilation system might not auto recirculate if traffic fumes detected. This was diagnosed when I took it in for its end of warranty check. It's a common fault apparently. Both of these were warranty claims thankfully. Finally, recently the heating system has packed up. Still trying to investigate under what conditions it's no working as seems a bit intermittent. This is another common fault that starts intermittently apparently then fails and comes with repair cost likely over £1k as the part itself is £550 I think (the aux heater).

At least it hasn't suffered the front shock gaiter's splitting yet (another common issue) but probably as mine has only covered low miles so far.

Many others swear by their reliability however but I'm not overly impressed so far. I've owned it for three years but even so....and I've only done 4500 miles with the car.
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Dang, I suspect those sorts of bills will only increase too and there was me just worried about the price of tyres. Thanks for the input, much appreciated.
 
I'll go electric when I can afford it :confused:

Anything good for less than £10K with good range and fast charging (I wouldn't be able to install a home charger)? I checked 2-3 years ago, there wasn't much.
 
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