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Is that USB plug on the side of the AMI to scale? 
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(USB 3.0 ev charging ?)
for ioniq hybrid, couldn't see any threads where people tried to corroborate the 30mile ev claim,
I guess you can't disable ICE intervention completely, which makes me more suspicious of whether the tax thresholds are really satisfied.
https://www.ioniqforum.com/threads/in-hybrid-how-far-could-you-travel-in-ev.30506/ people just talk about 4-5 miles in pure ev
for ioniq hybrid, couldn't see any threads where people tried to corroborate the 30mile ev claim,
I guess you can't disable ICE intervention completely, which makes me more suspicious of whether the tax thresholds are really satisfied.
https://www.ioniqforum.com/threads/in-hybrid-how-far-could-you-travel-in-ev.30506/ people just talk about 4-5 miles in pure ev
You are confusing the PHEV, with the normal (mild) Hybrid that has a much smaller battery system.
Ioniq comes in 1.6kWh (mild), 8.9kWh (think 7.1 usable) Plug-in Hybrid, and two full BEV's, 28kWh and 38 kWh.
PHEV is very efficient EPA rate it at 29 miles, but in predictably good driving conditions, and mild weather people have had almost 40 miles from it.
No, you linked to the dedicated sub-forum for the mild hybrid.
ok the first link was plugin hybrid and the second inconsistantly (mild) hybrid, strange those forum folks have not benchmarked plugin range
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a19484142/2018-hyundai-ioniq-plug-in-hybrid-test-review/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a19484142/2018-hyundai-ioniq-plug-in-hybrid-test-review/
a, pinch of salt data point; so, getting to work on a cold day might be problematic.
Problematic? Isn't that the point in the hybrid, so you can go from EV to HEV mode once your battery is depleted? The datapoint suggested would never be an issue on UK roads for a few reasons, two of which are the legal speed limit is 70 MPH, and finding a road where you can do 18 miles driving with out stopping at 75 MPH in commuting hours would be like finding hens teeth.
Not sure you've looked very hard, there are many examples of empirical data shared on the forums, including a gent who lives in Canada doing 58km in his car, EV mode only, in November.
What sort of range would you like to achieve in a plug-in hybrid vehicle?
How long is your daily commute, and what sort of roads and driving style is involved?
something almost constructive ! even more helpful if you posted a link as opposed to an enigmatic response .
With residuals questionable I don't see ev/hybrid as a non-pcp purchase, the negligible BIK, right, is attractive;
WLTP, might have addressed honest manufacturer reporting for ICE, but fool me once ... seeing objective data on battery ranges is helpful,
to ensure any compromise on performance is recompensed too.
With residuals questionable I don't see ev/hybrid as a non-pcp purchase, the negligible BIK, right, is attractive;
WLTP, might have addressed honest manufacturer reporting for ICE, but fool me once ... seeing objective data on battery ranges is helpful,
to ensure any compromise on performance is recompensed too.
I think I'd rather 10% less range - they ming. 
I'm sure there is some gain - however I think 10% is an optimistic figure.
Maybe if he was changing to something like the Honda Insight Gen 1 wheels (which are unbelievably light).
I'm sure there is some gain - however I think 10% is an optimistic figure.
Maybe if he was changing to something like the Honda Insight Gen 1 wheels (which are unbelievably light).
The user has already demonstrated that it was over 10%.
Down from 20+ kWh/100km to as low as 14.5kWh/100km.
subsequently - saw a thread on the ioniq phev ranges https://www.ioniqforum.com/threads/phev-hitting-40-miles-on-ev.29784/
comments about folks managing the cars mode , to try and ensure they were back to zero charge/soc (as much as it would allow), arriving home after commute;
comment about poorer display of energy phev use, verus, c-max, is, of geek interest.
Yes the GTE wheel change is interesting ...can't see if the 16"'s are narrower than the 18's (look at i3 tyres), or its a rolling resistance/aero gain. (I use GY efficient grips)
but the tesla model 3 aero wheels too, it's an option -no ? , are arguably less attractive
edit 225->205 ...not 'much'
Old: Serron 18" 7.5J - ContiSportContact 5 225/40 R18
New: Astana 16" 6.5J - GoodYear EfficientGrip Performance 205/55 R16
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Not sure about the wheel/tyre width but I'd imagine 16's would be a little smaller. A great deal of manufacturers are starting to make their efficient wheels look better, due to the reason they offer much less turbulence, and thus better range so ugly isn't an issue IMO.
As for the GTE efficiency and the Ioniq, you'll note that the 40 miles on the Ioniq is achieved with the same usable capacity battery as the Golf GTE, so 40 miles vs. ~25 miles of range. Just goes to show how efficient that manufacturers can make PHEV's if they want to.
40 miles of range would cover the vast majority of daily commutes with range to spare, it's just that for most people getting into the habit of charging the car daily, or bothering to actually have a charger installed is an issue in itself.
I doubt the size makes such a big deal, more so moving from a sports tyre where rolling resistance is not very good to an eco tyre where it is.
I would just put Eco based tyres on 18s, if you want to save weight you can buy lighter 18s
25% difference now? Unfortunately, any data is skewed by a natural bias. It's all down to how he drives it now that he's invested in those ugly wheels.The user has already demonstrated that it was over 10%.
Down from 20+ kWh/100km to as low as 14.5kWh/100km.
I think it's more down to not having a driveway than the 'hassle' of plugging it in.
Tyre pressure would have a bigger effect. It's pretty easy to reduce your rolling resistance by upping the pressure. I used to run my old Insight at 50psi. That rolled pretty easily.