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Did you even read the thread? I guess no is the answer.
Anyway in this thread as I am thinking about full electric,I need the car to tow occasionally, 1500kg should cover it, currently looking at Hybrids mostly as more of them tow, what full electrics can tow.
Currently considering the following Hybrids due to capability to tow and good range
X5 xdrive45 Hybrid (its hybrid range would mean it was full electric for us 90% of the time )
GLE 350de Hybrid (again its hybrid range would mean it was essentially full electric)
Only downside of these cars is that they are massive and the missus is not keen, so after something smaller, so what is out there that I may not have considered, either full electric or a PHEV with ~50miles range?
The XC40 full electric recharge sounds like it might tick boxes, it is small and can tow 1500, don’t know prices yet but surely cheaper than the two germans.
They have a PHEV but only 28miles range, which whilst we can work with that I am conscious of the fact that these things rarely hit their mark, particularly in low temperature, so don’t think it will be ideal.
Currently considering the following Hybrids due to capability to tow and good range
X5 xdrive45 Hybrid (its hybrid range would mean it was full electric for us 90% of the time )
GLE 350de Hybrid (again its hybrid range would mean it was essentially full electric)
Only downside of these cars is that they are massive and the missus is not keen, so after something smaller, so what is out there that I may not have considered, either full electric or a PHEV with ~50miles range?
The XC40 full electric recharge sounds like it might tick boxes, it is small and can tow 1500, don’t know prices yet but surely cheaper than the two germans.
They have a PHEV but only 28miles range, which whilst we can work with that I am conscious of the fact that these things rarely hit their mark, particularly in low temperature, so don’t think it will be ideal.
It was an interesting thread, but unfortunately, it's not entirely conclusive that the 10% improvement came from the wheel design alone. He also seems to have changed the tyres from a UHP tyre aimed at increasing grip, to a brand specifically aimed at increasing efficiency. I assume that would account for most of that increased efficiency alone.
I'd like to see the same test where the only variable changed was the wheel itself to properly gauge the aerodynamic improvement.
I'd like to see the same test where the only variable changed was the wheel itself to properly gauge the aerodynamic improvement.
Towing absolutely kills EV rage unfortunately. You'll be lucky to get half the range of not towing.
Yup completely understand that, it also completely kills diesel range
, my research of various EV related towing post shows that I could expect something that does 250miles to a full charge might only do approx 100 miles, I am OK with this, you can plan for that for the small inconvenience.The hope I cling to is that charging infrastructure will improve and the problem of charging will lessen over the next few years of ownership
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I don't need to to tell you that a set of wheels doesn't change efficiency by 25%.
Quite, but nonetheless the improvement in actual usable range is visible, based on data he gathered. It even made good financial sense as the savings on the fuel will have paid for the new tyres and wheels in a six months or so.
Have you carried out the same test, on the same car, in the same environment? He's shown his actual data, with photo's...
Well the new Fiat 500e has been revealed.
https://www.motor1.com/news/402135/new-fiat-500e-debuts/
It looks ok for a small car, but the 1st Edition is an eye watering €37,500 so I guess they don't want to sell a lot of them and offset the huge CO2 fines that Fiat/Chrysler are facing this year.
https://www.motor1.com/news/402135/new-fiat-500e-debuts/
It looks ok for a small car, but the 1st Edition is an eye watering €37,500 so I guess they don't want to sell a lot of them and offset the huge CO2 fines that Fiat/Chrysler are facing this year.
Actual data and photos to prove a 25% efficiency increase due to a set of wheels? Did the photos include Hovis?
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Yeah... had enough of humouring you now. Enjoy the rest of your day.
Its already been said there are loads of other things changed beyond the wheels. Anyone who knew about cars/physics before getting carried away with EV excitement will know that you don't get 25% efficiency from just changing wheels.
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Looks ok, pricey but ok range. When I see things like this and the Corsa E annoys me Honda E has dropped the ball with its low range.
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Could someone please tell me what a new EV owner needs to do please to prepare for the arrival of their first electric car (Audi)
So far I have:
Joined Octopus and will move to the Go tariff when setup as a customer
Registered for the home charger
Registered and activated a shell recharge card
Installed the ZapMap app
Installed the specific app for the car in question
anything else? I don't think I need the ohmn smart cable for the 12:30-4:30 off-peak charging as the car is clever enough to set times I think
Do I need any other payment cards or accounts? Ionity?
Thanks!
So far I have:
Joined Octopus and will move to the Go tariff when setup as a customer
Registered for the home charger
Registered and activated a shell recharge card
Installed the ZapMap app
Installed the specific app for the car in question
anything else? I don't think I need the ohmn smart cable for the 12:30-4:30 off-peak charging as the car is clever enough to set times I think
Do I need any other payment cards or accounts? Ionity?
Thanks!
Check that the car you ordered is being delivered with 'get out of jail free' 3-pin charging cable.
... and if you did, manufacturers would have been fitting them years ago to all vehicles, not only now that they're chasing marginal gains to try and win over range critics on EVs.
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Has he proven that the 25% is solely due to the wheels though? It was a fair question ...
It does, and I hope I never ever have to use it
They come in very handy, e.g. if you fancy a nice weekend away in a cottage somewhere remote that doesn't have a charge point near by, just throw a decent 10A+ weather proof extension lead in the car, with the 3-pin plug and you can charge/re-fuel the car included in the cost of your stay.
They admitted to not bothering reading the thread linked...
Why do you think it comes down to what Fiat Chrysler wants?
The market is constrained by the supply of batteries, and was even before the Coronavirus outbreak. It seems likely that they can't build many, and expect to sell what they can build despite the high price tag.