EV general discussion

Wow, why are these EVs so expensive to insure lol - is it the high power?

Ours (ID Buzz, Cupra Born) are around £350 each in a low risk area, and they both only have 200hp
"only" 200bhp? lol.

it wasn't so long ago that 200bhp+ would have been considered very high performance.

iirc my pug 306 had 72bhp :D

bottom line tho... cars cost a hell of a lot more to buy, replacement parts EV or ICE are incredibly expensive and add to that every man and their dog claiming whiplash and what not along with prolonged hire costs whilst people wait for repairs are all pushing insurance the wrong way.
 
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"only" 200bhp? lol.

it wasn't so long ago that 200bhp+ would have been considered very high performance.

iirc my pug 306 had 72bhp :D

bottom line tho... cars cost a hell of a lot more to buy, replacement parts EV or ICE are incredibly expensive and add to that every man and their dog claiming whiplash and what not along with prolonged hire costs whilst people wait for repairs are all pushing insurance the wrong way.
Fair comment... I remember when my dream car was a Clio 182 haha. My first car was a Peugeot 206 1.1 which must have had all of 60hp, it would lose speed going uphill on dual carriageways and motorways at NSL speeds

Relative to some of the silly EV numbers though, 200 feels modest
 
Took a Suoer N for a joy ride today:

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95BHP and 1100kg for £18,950 with simulated gear shifts (paddles).


Love a hot hatch (own a 595) I do like the look of these. Going to get a Renault 5 or Alpine equivalent next
 
Ordered a Model Y (premium AWD)

My 140 is live on Motorway now and I'll find out the offer 3:30pm.

I was never dependant on selling the 140 to be able to have the Tesla, but now there is a possibility I can keep it, on the dream that they might increase in value (future classic?). But my sensible head is telling me to sell it :(

Delivery date states September at the moment, which should hopefully give me enough time to move house and get EV bits fitted to the house too.

My misses is just about ok with it, she's not a Tesla fan, but when rationalising all the positives (most practical, efficient, safe, reliable etc) it's hard to find an alternative.
 
Whats the general thinking on tethered or untethered chargers?
Tethered unless there is a specific reason like you need a really long cable or something like that.

Almost all the untethered chargers I see in my local area have their owners cable permanently locked into them and draped over the top when not in use because it’s more work to take it off, coil it up and put it somewhere safe when you can just not.

They mostly look a mess because the cable is the one that came with the car and it’s fluorescent yellow or something.
 
We have a BYD Dolphin Surf Comfort edition, and its great to drive. 174 mile range is great for around town, the one thing I don't like is the aircon is not climate control and to alter it while you are driving can distract you from the road.
 
Second most expensive thing people will buy,

I've got an original Ohme Home charger and had same experience. It's like they don't really get any input from EV owners. That said, they were great at fixing a bug I came across. I've forgotten all the issues I had with it, including why it simply won't do what I expect it to at times.
I stopped using the Ohme app as moved to a smart tariff and used the energy supplier's app. That's got similar issues too, not really doing what I expect to. For example, tell it to charge to 80% by 6am and at 6:20am it's still charging the car and is on 92%. I understand why they might do that, as it's using the extended cheap rate electric that has become available(probably!), but at least give users a simple checkbox that states "Stop charging at this %".
Also had an issue recently where I plugged the car in and it started charging and the energy supplier's app didn't recognise it was plugged in for around 25minutes, during which time I was being charged at the daytime rate. Reading into it they advise keeping an eye on it when plugging in and taking action to manually stop the charge session if it happens. So much for "smart" charging. Probably not entirely their fault as rely on the BMW service but it's all just still a bit flaky.

I've now moved to using the Ohme app again and just charging midnight to 6am as don't have confidence in the energy supplier's software managing charging during any daytime cheap rate periods, or, as above, charging for a while during the daytime as it's not detected the car is plugged in. However, I've realised I need to take about 10% off the SoC I input when I plug in as Ohme is overcharging the car by that amount and they don't have access to the BMW api anymore to automatically obtain the current SoC.
There was a period in which I’d have to renew the API key/permission for Ohme and Tesla. Seemed to coincide when car had OTA update. Became quite annoying.

And the other thing is “your car is taking longer to charge than expected” so it’s several percent lower at the point of its scheduled stop. I believe that’s normal due to inefficiencies of AC to DC converting going on within the car. As a result I set to car to 84% so atleast it’ll be where I want to it in the morning.

Boomer gen are never going to get to grips with this stuff, the idea my 81 year old Mum would figure all this out and God forbid in a public charger is absurd. But then I guess they don’t have to, sticking with little 1ltre city car to go shopping, Church etc.

When I’m in my 70’s this **** better not get complicated.
 
Teathered, unless you have a very specific use case.

When it's raining or snowing or something you won't want to be faffing about plugging a cable in to both your charger and car.
Agree 100% I got the 10m Hypervolt 3 having had a Podpoint Solo to start with, the Hypervolt works really well and 10m is enough cable to reach either car at either end of the drive. Cable tidies away nicely as well unlike our neighbour who has the Ohme Pro and the cable is both not long enough and doesn't tidy away neatly.
 
I also don't get the opportunity of putting "premium" electric in, always enjoyed the warm fuzzy probably placebo feeling when I put some Esso supreme in my old car :cry:

Assuming you are on an "EV" tariff then you could move the warm fuzzy placebo feeling to when you charge up at the normal day rate.... mmmmm premium electric..... Day time electrons more awake so car go more wizzy.....

(Warm fuzzy feeling is not a coping mechanism for the fact I forgot I had the charging schedule disabled and thus charged up at 4-5x the normal cost.... nope.... :cry: )
 
i agree for me tethered was an easy choice as well. however 1 thing which crossed my mind maybe in favour of untethered.....

we have 2 EVs both bought 2nd hand and both of them came with faulty charging cables (one we replaced under warranty, the other came with 2 charging cables the broke one and a new replacement).
so I suppose one consideration would be . if the cable fails in a tethered charge point it's a bit of a pita /expense (I don't even know if the cable is replaceable) where as an untethered it's an easy switch .
a small consideration perhaps but is one point to going untethered.
 
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i agree for me tethered was an easy choice as well. however 1 thing which crossed my mind maybe in favour of untethered.....

we have 2 EVs both bought 2nd hand and both of them came with faulty charging cables (one we replaced under warranty, the other came with 2 charging cables the broke one and a new replacement).
so I suppose one consideration would be . if the cable fails in a tethered charge point it's a bit of a pita /expense (I don't even know if the cable is replaceable) where as an untethered it's an easy switch .
a small consideration perhaps but is one point to going untethered.
I don't know about others but it's pretty straightforward on the Hypervolt to switch the cable for a new one.
 
There was a period in which I’d have to renew the API key/permission for Ohme and Tesla. Seemed to coincide when car had OTA update. Became quite annoying.

And the other thing is “your car is taking longer to charge than expected” so it’s several percent lower at the point of its scheduled stop. I believe that’s normal due to inefficiencies of AC to DC converting going on within the car. As a result I set to car to 84% so atleast it’ll be where I want to it in the morning.

Boomer gen are never going to get to grips with this stuff, the idea my 81 year old Mum would figure all this out and God forbid in a public charger is absurd. But then I guess they don’t have to, sticking with little 1ltre city car to go shopping, Church etc.

When I’m in my 70’s this **** better not get complicated.
Ohme is too complex for its own good.

I just plug my car in, it charges to the limit set. Job jobbed.
 
We have a BYD Dolphin Surf Comfort edition, and its great to drive. 174 mile range is great for around town, the one thing I don't like is the aircon is not climate control and to alter it while you are driving can distract you from the road.
I'm sure you can use voice commands to adjust it.
 
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