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Minstadave said:
1 day in with the Etron - I want the iPace back :cry:

No creep mode, don't like the regen/paddles at all, stereo is not bad but just sounds weird, it's feels sluggish in comparison to the iPace.

Wireless Android Auto is good though.
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I owned an E-Tron before the I-Pace and while the E-Tron does do some things better I prefer the I-Pace by quite a margin. Where the Audi wins easily is with the customer support.
 
jpaul said:
yes I meant NMC ...
article I'd read https://www.dekra.se/en/how-electric-car-batteries-differ-in-performance-across-types/
so the essential 100% charging strategy seems to offset the expected life cycle gains of LFP .
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Which is why I follow the guidelines from the manufacturer which says to charge the car to 100% once a week (ish - sometimes I forget).

What the guidelines don’t say is to charge the car to 100% all the time and then leave it there for long periods. The intent is that you charge it to 100% and then use it soon after to minimise impact.

It’s kind of a mute point anyway as there are not significant longevity concerns on cobalt based backs so even if LFP only lasted as long as them, it’s still fine.

Likewise those that ‘buy’ new EVs, particularly on tick probably aren’t going to own it after 3 years so probably aren’t that bothered about looking after the pack because it just won’t impact them. That’s not the right attitude but it is the reality.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
I know… but a premium car is is never going to be in the same ball park a cheap hatch back.

You could almost buy an MG4 outright for the expected depreciation on the i4 over 3-4 years.
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I was going to post yesterday but held off - some employers SS are absolutely nuts. My scheme is distinctly tied back to the price of the car. My colleague actually uses his wifes scheme which is tied back to "bands" that they have invented. And indeed, the MG is in the same category as the i4 and the iPace. Crazy.
 
jpaul said:
yes I meant NMC ...
article I'd read https://www.dekra.se/en/how-electric-car-batteries-differ-in-performance-across-types/
so the essential 100% charging strategy seems to offset the expected life cycle gains of LFP .
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Reading the article it makes some sense from Tesla's initial advice on doing a regular 100% charge was to correct the BMS range accuracy. Though they have dropped that from the manual I believe which may be a result of their BMS strategy changing.

Jonnycoupe said:
Tesla is NCA too
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My NCA SR+ Model 3 used to regularly drift few percent over time so again an occasional high charge would fix that. I don't do many 100% charges these days maybe only every 6 moths now just to check the max range reading. Using a scan tool I appear to have lost ~5% over 4 years and 35K miles. Very similar to my previous i3.
 
Speaking of the MG4, come this Saturday (all things going well with Insurance on the new reg) we will be going completely Electric. :)

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MG4 XPower in Grey which will be replacing my wife's MK8 Fiesta ST-2.

My wife wanted something that was a comparable size, decent level of kit, quirky and with enough power to put a smile on her face. Went through a number of options but most she either didn't like the look of, were lol when it came to insurance (my dreams of an IPace to run alongside my Model 3 were quashed when we saw the quotes come back - they made no sense but were consistent in making no sense)), pointlessly big for the use case or were too slow for her liking (e-208/Corsa etc). The Mini was an option but its range was a stumbling block and the Abarth 500e is basically the Mini but worse in every respect. Ended up looking at both a MG4 Trophy Long Range and X Power and after a good test drive in the latter the decision was made...

Did have the option of the Dealers Green XPower (done 4,000 miles) but after seeing the Grey one in the flesh, so to speak, she decided on that one.

Will provide further thoughts when we get it and have driven it for a bit longer but first impressions (from the test drive) were positive. You can see where the cost cutting has taken place to get the "low" sticker price but imo it is mostly in areas that are less important. Material quality in the interior is perfectly fine for the price point ( I went in expecting it to be worse) - better than the Fiesta which was my wife's main concern and the overall comfort and noise levels were excellent given the terrible local roads and odd choice of Bridgestone Turunza (sp?) tyres. It also wasn't a spine crushingly bad over bumps like the ST so that will be a plus when I totally don't borrow it on Fridays to take the back lanes home..... :D
 
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What am I missing here?

Approved Used Jaguar I-PACE Electric 400

In stock and available. Narvik Black LJ69UFB Used Jaguar I-PACE I-PACE SE EV400 with 10944.0000 miles for £32,000.00.
used.jaguar.co.uk used.jaguar.co.uk

Why can you get these 2nd hand are a similar price to F-Paces with similar milage? As far as can tell they're still competitive with recently released electrics?

I must be missing something, but if I'm not I'm very tempted to buy early next year.
 
It’s a combination two things have tanked residuals.

All the FUD the media are spewing out daily. They admit it gets a huge amount of clicks and engagement and therefore ad revenue so they keep doing it even though they know it’s nonsense. Some of the FUD spreading journalists drive them daily like Giles Coren. He even went out and bought an i3 after ‘ditching his iPace’.

High electricity prices, this mainly a perception as despite prices being really high, you have been able to consistently charge your car for 7.5p-10p/kWh throughout this period.

It’s great for used buyers, there are some real bargains out there. It’s not so great for those buying new as it pushes up lease and PCP costs significantly.
 
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oweneades said:
Speaking of the MG4, come this Saturday (all things going well with Insurance on the new reg) we will be going completely Electric. :)

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Looks good. She nailed the parking too (y)

b0rn2sk8 said:
It’s a combination two things have tanked residuals.

All the FUD the media are spewing out daily. They admit it gets a huge amount of clicks and engagement and therefore ad revenue so they keep doing it even though they know it’s nonsense. Some of the FUD spreading journalists drive them daily like Giles Coren. He even went out and bought an i3 after ‘ditching his iPace’.

High electricity prices, this mainly a perception as despite prices being really high, you have been able to consistently charge your car for 7.5p-10p/kWh throughout this period.

It’s great for used buyers, there are some real bargains out there. It’s not so great for those buying new as it pushes up lease and PCP costs significantly.
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Also, iPace has been the defacto salary sacrifice car for a long while now (it predated a lot of the other rep mobiles).
 
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dlockers said:
Looks good. She nailed the parking too (y)
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LOL!

She would love to take credit but it was parked like that when we got back from the test drive of the Green one. Mind you... my parking of the Green one was... er... special! :cry:

I am so used the turning circle of my Model 3 that I ended up diagonally in the bay....
 
Had my first real butt clenching EV moment just now. Car was showing 240km range for a 200km journey to the Eurotunnel and range just kept dropping and dropping. Made it to the Tesla supercharger with 2% and the car in low power mode with everything switched off :D
 
Any thoughts on the Enyaq 80? Decent mile muncher or a bit of a barge? I know it's a big car but I'm currently in a diesel VW Tiguan Allspace anyway.
 
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Uther said:
Any thoughts on the Enyaq 80? Decent mile muncher or a bit of a barge? I know it's a big car but I'm currently in a diesel VW Tiguan Allspace anyway.
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I had a look at them for a company car. Seem decent, but really need to spec them up as they’re a little basic. The coupe looks much better and seems often cheaper on lease, but not as practical.

But although it’s almost 10k more, the BMW i4 was offering far better deals than the base Enyaq, so although it’s not as practical at all, I ended up going for one of those. Ordered mid September for approx Christmas eta, but now delayed till “early march”!
 
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chanjy said:
Made it to the Tesla supercharger with 2% and the car in low power mode with everything switched off
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Do you get any heads-up that kw/m had dropped - like the average over last 20miles was less than your regular.
(does i-pace include wind direction into it's estimates like tesla reputedly does - whether it explains it's calculation though)
 
If he was Euro side the higher speeds start to take effect when the range still has the longer term trims applied. That’s all.

It doesn’t use wind direction as it’s frankly absurd based on the macro conditions some areas have compared weather reports.
 
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