EV general discussion

Simon · 19 Feb 2026 at 21:24

jpaul said:
polestar4 range - owner summary, if you compare that with a 3 or cla on motorway, and it would takes shine off of fast dc charge he wants.

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Outbound Trip (Cold & Damp)

Conditions: Temperatures were between 0°C and 5°C (32°F - 41°F). For about one-third of the drive, the roads were damp with light rain.

Settings: I set the cruise control to 140 km/h (87 mph) where allowed.

Average Speed: 104 km/h (65 mph).

Consumption (Trip Computer): 26.9 kWh/100 km (2.3 mi/kWh / 78 MPGe).

Consumption (Journey Log App): 28.7 kWh/100 km (2.2 mi/kWh / 73 MPGe).

Battery: Started with 100% SoC and arrived with 24%.

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jpaul said:
polestar4 range - owner summary, if you compare that with a 3 or cla on motorway, and it would takes shine off of fast dc charge he wants.

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Outbound Trip (Cold & Damp)

Conditions: Temperatures were between 0°C and 5°C (32°F - 41°F). For about one-third of the drive, the roads were damp with light rain.

Settings: I set the cruise control to 140 km/h (87 mph) where allowed.

Average Speed: 104 km/h (65 mph).

Consumption (Trip Computer): 26.9 kWh/100 km (2.3 mi/kWh / 78 MPGe).

Consumption (Journey Log App): 28.7 kWh/100 km (2.2 mi/kWh / 73 MPGe).

Battery: Started with 100% SoC and arrived with 24%.

Can’t wait till you finally can post your experiences. Rather than others

Absolutely no value in a efficiency test at 87mph

ICDP · 20 Feb 2026 at 07:13

Simon said:
Can’t wait till you finally can post your experiences. Rather than others

Absolutely no value in a efficiency test at 87mph

I have no issues when people without EVs post “opinions”. It’s when they post with such a level of unwarranted overconfidence that it’s amusing.

Junglist · 20 Feb 2026 at 07:48

My Tesla got the Grok update last nigh. It's not exactly a feature I wanted or thought I'd care about but as it was active this morning I thought I'd see what it was like... Pains me that I enjoyed it more than I thought I would've. Instead of listening to music I had a conversation with it about blackholes and spacetime as I've been interested in that subject the last few weeks for some reason.

b0rn2sk8 · 20 Feb 2026 at 08:07

My car has it but I don’t pay for premium connectivity and rarely can be bothered to make sure my hotspot is on so I don’t think I’ll notice the addition

Junglist · 20 Feb 2026 at 08:14

I don't think you're missing much. It's hardly revolutionary lol

Mr Jack · 20 Feb 2026 at 08:19

Penfold101 said:
87 mph? Why would you pay any attention to someone doing a range test at that speed?

Laughs in German

Although, actually, half the autobahns are limited to 120 or 130 these days, and in our EV I mostly set it to 120 anyway because the difference in journey time for going at 130 or more isn't worth the battery. It was fun blasting down autobahns at 207 in our old ICE but it's not like I was going to do that with any regularity anyway.

MOOGLEYS · 20 Feb 2026 at 10:32

Corsa had a big piece of metal through the tyre this morning. New tyre needed only done 6k on the originals. Stupid electric cars..lol

jpaul · 20 Feb 2026 at 13:27

Simon said:
Can’t wait till you finally can post your experiences. Rather than others

been enough discussion on having winter range as part of the standard wltp figures ...
I'd want to know upfront that a P4 will do 2.3kwh/m versus a CLA/T3 on 3. at motorway speeds.

If he's buying a P4 for long trips, you need to consider the trade-off of driving economically/slower with fewer dc charges versus the opposite.

Jonnycoupe · 20 Feb 2026 at 13:35

He doesnt, he just buys the car he wants and the rest is largely moot, pay by mile makes efficiency stuff even less for the EV Walkers amongst us. The talkers can stick to the echo chamber.

Simon · 20 Feb 2026 at 13:35

jpaul said:
been enough discussion on having winter range as part of the standard wltp figures ...
I'd want to know upfront that a P4 will do 2.3kwh/m versus a CLA/T3 on 3. at motorway speeds.

If he's buying a P4 for long trips, you need to consider the trade-off of driving economically/slower with fewer dc charges versus the opposite.

I don’t need to consider anything.

The car aero is more impacting efficiency than anything. the battery tech is way down the list after tyres wheels, motors, inverters, heater settings etc

There’s no trade off for me. I drive at a speed to get where I want without stopping. 240miles winter. 300 miles summer

But no one is getting a EV and hammering it at 87mph with concerns over range. You just getting lost in your bubble. Ice mpg on test cycle never correlated to motorway speed

If you want range just get a big battery. Not rocket science

Penfold101 · 20 Feb 2026 at 13:40

jpaul said:
I'd want to know upfront that a P4 will do 2.3kwh/m versus a CLA/T3 on 3. at motorway speeds.

87mph is not motorway speeds in the UK.

jpaul · 20 Feb 2026 at 14:13

average p4 speed from reddit example was only 65mph with which he achieved the 2.3kwh/m .... yes probably need a more scientific test, older cla/t3 I'd posted was

e: similar p4 result to this guy

rodenal · 20 Feb 2026 at 14:19

New polestar 4 "estate" this year, would be ideal for me as I want the size and I like them loads inside. Unfortunately a small fortune under our scheme so a non starter!

Simon · 20 Feb 2026 at 14:23

jpaul said:
average p4 speed from reddit example was only 65mph with which he achieved the 2.3kwh/m .... yes probably need a more scientific test, older cla/t3 I'd posted was

e: similar p4 result to this guy

Who cares.? 90 then 30 is very different to sitting at 60. Despite the same average

I do love the way you get all excited about sharing it. But don’t provide a summary or comparison. Just share another link to trawl through. Can you please stop just posting links without at least some reason why they are worth looking at

b0rn2sk8 · 20 Feb 2026 at 14:25

jpaul said:
average p4 speed from reddit example was only 65mph with which he achieved the 2.3kwh/m .... yes probably need a more scientific test, older cla/t3 I'd posted was

e: similar p4 result to this guy

65mph average speed did not equate 65mph on the motorway. His target speed was either 87mph or 95mph on the return run and will have spent considerable time above 65mph to achieve that speed where his start point and end points were not on the motorway.

If you do a long journey in the U.K. and you don’t live on the slip road for the motorway and your destination also isn’t on the slip road for the motorway, your average speed will probably be well below 50mph, possibly even below 40mph.

ICDP · 21 Feb 2026 at 04:43

b0rn2sk8 said:
65mph average speed did not equate 65mph on the motorway. His target speed was either 87mph or 95mph on the return run and will have spent considerable time above 65mph to achieve that speed where his start point and end points were not on the motorway.

If you do a long journey in the U.K. and you don’t live on the slip road for the motorway and your destination also isn’t on the slip road for the motorway, your average speed will probably be well below 50mph, possibly even below 40mph.

You don’t even need to own an EV to know this basic fact.

It’s why those EV motorway range tests where they start and end at a 350kWh rapid in a service station are interesting… but effectively pointless for every day EV ownership experience.

But then again a range test during stop start commute traffic where it takes 2 hours to do a round trip of 38 miles and an 8 hour AC charging speed test on the home/work charger, would make for a very boring video.

MOOGLEYS · Sunday at 14:26

Ohme is still charging my cars with less than 30 min chunks and then one big chunk overnight. It should be fixed according to Ohme but it’s not.

Also just read that EV insurance is set to double this year due to rising costs and most EV’s being written off for minor issues.

Kenai · Sunday at 14:45

MOOGLEYS said:
Ohme is still charging my cars with less than 30 min chunks and then one big chunk overnight. It should be fixed according to Ohme but it’s not.

What about this behaviour needs fixing? Sounds pretty much exactly as you'd expect on IOG (which I think you are?)

MOOGLEYS · Sunday at 14:49

Kenai said:
What about this behaviour needs fixing? Sounds pretty much exactly as you'd expect on IOG (which I think you are?)

Octopus are going to be billing in 30 min chunks when it swaps to the new billing method so anything under 30 mins will be billed at the standard rate. Ohme have said that it should now only allocate 30 mins minimum charge times but it’s not the case.

Kenai · Sunday at 14:54

MOOGLEYS said:
Octopus are going to be billing in 30 min chunks when it swaps to the new billing method so anything under 30 mins will be billed at the standard rate. Ohme have said that it should now only allocate 30 mins minimum charge times but it’s not the case.

Do you have a link to what you're referencing?

Whilst billing is obviously half hourly, the upcoming changes regarding 6h caps, as I understand things, don't mean that if you don't charge for the full half hour slot that it's billed at full rate - the opposite in fact. What I've seen detailed suggests if you get even a few minutes in a slot, you'll get household electricity at reduced rate for the entire slot still and it will only tally up actual active charging time for purposes of the 6h charging rate limits.