Everyone is Baldrick now - environment secretary suggests we eat turnips

One More Solo said:
It’s like the government saying “just use your left arm” but ignoring the fact they chopped off your right arm. Eating seasonal British produce is great but we don’t produce enough food to feed ourselves without imports. This shortage potentially points to a much bigger issue about food security.
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So its the governments fault that tomatoes aren't in season during the UK's winter?

This pathetic post covid culture where people cant think or do anything for themselves is so depressing - a few veg are temporarily unavailable due to weather in other countries and suddenly its the beginning of some sort of famine.

The government should know not to make pragmatic suggestions to problems because it always triggers the victim culture on the left - no tomatoes, try a different vegetable - WAH?? working part time and want more money, work more hours - WAHHHHH??? etc etc no fair sob sob sigh..
 
n111ck said:
So its the governments fault that tomatoes aren't in season during the UK's winter?

This pathetic post covid culture where people cant think or do anything for themselves is so depressing - a few veg are temporarily unavailable due to weather in other countries and suddenly its the beginning of some sort of famine.

The government should know not to make pragmatic suggestions to problems because it always triggers the victim culture on the left - no tomatoes, try a different vegetable - WAH?? working part time and want more money, work more hours - WAHHHHH??? etc etc no fair sob sob sigh..
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Some people look for any opportunity to have a moan.
 
I've heard that every time you eat a Great British Turnip (TM), an immigrant stubs his toe.
 
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It's the environment innit? On the one hand seasonal weather is cutting our unseasonal veg supply due to growing issues and air freighting the stuff around. Then the huge additional use of carbon fuels to heat greenhouses and air freight the stuff around.

Greta says no! (From wherever she has gone too.)
 
n111ck said:
So its the governments fault that tomatoes aren't in season during the UK's winter?

This pathetic post covid culture where people cant think or do anything for themselves is so depressing - a few veg are temporarily unavailable due to weather in other countries and suddenly its the beginning of some sort of famine.

The government should know not to make pragmatic suggestions to problems because it always triggers the victim culture on the left - no tomatoes, try a different vegetable - WAH?? working part time and want more money, work more hours - WAHHHHH??? etc etc no fair sob sob sigh..
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Well, at least we're not short of Gammon in this country!
 
Hagar said:
It's the environment innit? On the one hand seasonal weather is cutting our unseasonal veg supply due to growing issues and air freighting the stuff around. Then the huge additional use of carbon fuels to heat greenhouses and air freight the stuff around.

Greta says no! (From wherever she has gone too.)
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How the lib dems have the staggering hypocrisy to bleat on about net zero whilst insisting that using local vegetables is an atrocity against the British people is just beyond me..
 
n111ck said:
So its the governments fault that tomatoes aren't in season during the UK's winter?

This pathetic post covid culture where people cant think or do anything for themselves is so depressing - a few veg are temporarily unavailable due to weather in other countries and suddenly its the beginning of some sort of famine.

The government should know not to make pragmatic suggestions to problems because it always triggers the victim culture on the left - no tomatoes, try a different vegetable - WAH?? working part time and want more money, work more hours - WAHHHHH??? etc etc no fair sob sob sigh..
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That's completely not what I said, but nice try. My point is it points to a weakness in our food import chain which is concerning when we don't produce enough food to cover what we consume. Just like the energy situation, it leaves us in a position where if there are shortages we are forced to either go without or dramatically overpay to maintain supply. It's not as simple as saying "eat local produce" when there isn't enough for everybody.

I'm also not suggesting that we should be self-sustaining because that is impracticable. However, the fact is we are in a weaker position than the rest of our neighbours because if there are shortages we are harder and more expensive to export to so will be at the back of the queue. That will either drive up costs or create shortages, or both.
 
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One More Solo said:
That's completely not what I said, but nice try. My point is it points to a weakness in our food import chain which is concerning when we don't produce enough food to cover what we consume. Just like the energy situation, it leaves us in a position where if there are shortages we are forced to either go without or dramatically overpay to maintain supply. It's not as simple as saying "eat local produce" when there isn't enough for everybody.

I'm also not suggesting that we should be self-sustaining because that is impracticable. However, the fact is we are in a weaker position than the rest of our neighbours because if there are shortages we are harder and more expensive to export to so will be at the back of the queue. That will either drive up costs or create shortages, or both.
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There arent 'food shortages' - there are a few fresh vegetables that will unavailable for a few weeks and plenty of other alternatives.

However the 'people' apparently dont want to eat English veg in winter so what exactly is it that you suggest?
 
n111ck said:
There arent 'food shortages' - there are a few fresh vegetables that will unavailable for a few weeks and plenty of other alternatives.

However the 'people' apparently dont want to eat English veg in winter so what exactly is it that you suggest?
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Gammons be like "there isn't a tomato shortage, it's a temporary supply chain adjustment".

You do seem to be advancing the argument that being able to eat a ****ing tomato is some sort of bourgeois pleasure. It's not that the people don't want to eat local veg in winter (they seem pretty keen on potatoes, parsnips etc), it's just a pretty dull existence when your diet consists of beige food.
 
I think it's more that most people are resilient enough that when seasons, high energy prices and bad weather coincide to mean a temporary disruption to a few food stuffs but a large variety remains they don't see the need to imbue it with more significance than being a minor inconvenience.
 
PlacidCasual said:
I think it's more that most people are resilient enough that when seasons, high energy prices and bad weather coincide to mean a temporary disruption to a few food stuffs but a large variety remains they don't see the need to imbue it with more significance than being a minor inconvenience.
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Exactly that.
 
n111ck said:
Its a term based on skin colour to refer to a certain demographic of aged white English people.

Favoured by racist hypocritical lefties.
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Awww, bless here comes the victim culture of the right again, pulling out the racist card as well! lol

I'm a middle aged white man and not a gammon, so there must be another significant attribute that lends itself to such to being part of that group...
 
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