EVGA Pascal cards hotspot problem

[maonayze]

I tried using the links provided on #318 the guest rma says the s/n is not valid, emailing EVGA via the email link provided has resulted in total silence so far, the only other support offered on the site is the EVGA RMA which doesn't appear to do a thing or a call to some number in the USA.

I'll give it another day to see if I get any email response failing that I will be emailing you I think.

I recently used the Advanced RMA process and if you ask a question it usually takes a day to get an answer back, but they do answer and are helpful. I thought the process was fairly quick but they dont seem to set out all the steps of the process so I was emailing them for pointers on the next step every few days. But new PSU now installed and I am happy with it overall.

 

[mikeo]

How do you do a reflash? Earlier bios? I tried re-doing it with the same one but the updater just hangs at "detecting your hardware..."

I flashed it originally in Safe Mode flashing in Windows is risky...

how long did you wait for for the cold boot? I unplugged it from the mains left it for 10 minutes still not working.

I just re-ran the same app to re-flash the latest BIOS. As I said, it worked for me. Sounds like your issue might be different.

Sorry that I can't be any more help.

PS. Only switched it off at the mains and counted to 10.

EDIT. Did you take the precaution of backing up your original VBIOS? If so, you could attempt to put that back on.

 

[Gripen90]

That seems pretty high to me. The new curve for the 1070 ftw is only running at around 45% (rather than 30% like it did originally) at 70C. At least that's what it looks like to me after installing the new VBIOS. Though EVGA did say that each fan curve for the different models would be unique (ie. Different). Don't know if any other 1080 owners have tried the new VBIOS yet. Failing that, you could always try a re-flash. I found that this time when trying to flash, that both windows and my AV programming objected and that I ended up have to temporarily disable my AV programming to get it to complete the flash correctly. Even then (as someone else encountered) my fans initially, even after a reboot, were not spinning at all! Had to shut down PC an do a cold boot. Things seemed ok then. Never a dull moment.

I think it's a read out bug, because I can have logs from gpuz and msi afterburner open and one reports max as 4400rpm and the other 2500rpm and then it can suddenly be vice versa. Because when I see the graphs they are all around the same rpm, but one can have a spike reading 4400rpm for like less than a second, when the rest of the time it's 2500rpm.

However at 2400rpm aka 68% fan speed at 70°c it's still a bit loud I think.
I tried comparing my custom profile I had before and how the new Vbios handles the fan speed and they are pretty much 99% identical in behavior.

One thing I did notice with the new Vbios is that the fans now kick in at 40°c instead of 59°c.

 

[mikeo]

I think it's a read out bug, because I can have logs from gpuz and msi afterburner open and one reports max as 4400rpm and the other 2500rpm and then it can suddenly be vice versa. Because when I see the graphs they are all around the same rpm, but one can have a spike reading 4400rpm for like less than a second, when the rest of the time it's 2500rpm.

However at 2400rpm aka 68% fan speed at 70°c it's still a bit loud I think.
I tried comparing my custom profile I had before and how the new Vbios handles the fan speed and they are pretty much 99% identical in behavior.

One thing I did notice with the new Vbios is that the fans now kick in at 40°c instead of 59°c.

Looks like the new fan curve for the 1080 is a fair bit more aggressive than for the 1070. Only to be expected I suppose, with the 1080 being a more powerful card. Think I to would find 68% fan speed a bit too loud. As I say, the 1070 only seems to hit 45% at that point. Also looks like the fans start to kick in earlier for the 1080, as the 1070 seemed to run passive up to 50C.

 

[Drollic]

Updated my primary BIOS today, no hitches - will leave the secondary BIOS standard. The updated profile is still conservative. I'll be sticking with my more aggressive custom fan profile possibly reducing it just slightly depending on if kryonaut reduces core temps more.

 

[Hanga]

As to me. I shall go back to my own custom fan curve, as this is set up to suit my case/average ambient air temp/acceptable noise levels. My curve is slightly more aggressive than the new one and maybe overkill, but it suits my personal preference/s and setup

Hi Mike. Just out of curiosity, could you post your fan curve?

This is mine at the moment - slightly more aggressive than the default (old bios). As the fan curve seems to be the only improvement in the new bios, I see no point in updating as long as I can use my own.

 

[mikeo]

Not at my PC at the moment. A bit like yours but slightly more aggressive.

. Passive up to 40C
. Then it ramps up to 50% at 60
. Then on to 70% at 70C
. Then onto 100% at 90C

Always pretty cool up here. So games (Witcher 3 and Deus Ex MD) run at high 50's to low 60's.
Fans spinning at around 45/50% at this point, so still inaudible over my case fans.

Just need the "optional" thermal pads to turn up now (currently "awaiting shipment").

PS. The reason for passive only up to 40C, is so that when the load is removed, the fans keep going that bit longer. In the hope that it will help to dissipate any trapped heat in the PCB as the GPU temp starts to drop, but other parts of the board may well still be hotter. Well that's my theory. May well be BS as far as I know. But I'm happy, so that's ok then

 

[Dervious]

PS. The reason for passive only up to 40C, is so that when the load is removed, the fans keep going that bit longer. In the hope that it will help to dissipate any trapped heat in the PCB as the GPU temp starts to drop, but other parts of the board may well still be hotter. Well that's my theory. May well be BS as far as I know. But I'm happy, so that's ok then

Makes sense.

I`ve just updated the BIOS on my Palit Gamerock (for Micron memory, but it works fine with my Samsung memory).

They've altered the fan curve so that they don't start spinning until 60C, but don't stop until the temp drops to 50C. This is much better as the fans used to start at around 40C which sometimes caused them to keep starting and stopping when I'm not gaming. I don't know if it's because of slightly lower ambient temperatures, but the new BIOS seems to have reduced the maximum gaming temp of the card from ~70C to ~63C, even though the max fan speed is still ~38%.

 

[Hanga]

Not at my PC at the moment. A bit like yours but slightly more aggressive.

. Passive up to 40C
. Then it ramps up to 50% at 60
. Then on to 70% at 70C
. Then onto 100% at 90C

Always pretty cool up here. So games (Witcher 3 and Deus Ex MD) run at high 50's to low 60's.
Fans spinning at around 45/50% at this point, so still inaudible over my case fans.

Just need the "optional" thermal pads to turn up now (currently "awaiting shipment").

PS. The reason for passive only up to 40C, is so that when the load is removed, the fans keep going that bit longer. In the hope that it will help to dissipate any trapped heat in the PCB as the GPU temp starts to drop, but other parts of the board may well still be hotter. Well that's my theory. May well be BS as far as I know. But I'm happy, so that's ok then

Thanks.

One thing that annoys me with my card is that when the fans turn on, they always seem to go to 100% for one second and then drop to the assigned rpm.

So if I am gaming and the card is only under light load (I use v-sync 60hz) and the temp roams around the 55 degree mark, the fan will ramp up to 100% for one second as soon as the temp passes 55%, making the temp go down again and then this can be repeated a lot of times. So I will try to assign the fans to kick in sooner as you have done.

 

[mikeo]

Better seen as a picture I suppose:



Not had this issue with the fans spiking at 100% though

Wonder if it's anything to do with the sudden jump to 40% rather than my gradual curve?

 

[Hanga]

Not had this issue with the fans spiking at 100% though

Wonder if it's anything to do with the sudden jump to 40% rather than my gradual curve?

Maybe, I will try it.

The fans also rev up to 100% for 2-3 seconds when turning on the PC from cold.

 

[Simon Belmont]

Maybe, I will try it.

The fans also rev up to 100% for 2-3 seconds when turning on the PC from cold.

That should happen. Mine doesn't do that. Maybe you should do a clean driver install.

Try DDU

 

[Dervious]

Maybe, I will try it.

The fans also rev up to 100% for 2-3 seconds when turning on the PC from cold.

That sounds normal.

 

[Evian]

Do the new EVGA bios's have the fix for the micron memory too?

 

[triss]

Not sure if already posted but too lazy to scroll back
http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2576924

Starting next week we will ship thermal grease, memory thermal pads, along with PWM thermal pads in the package. It is recommended to remove the existing grease on GPU and memory pads and apply the new ones. For any customers that did not receive memory thermal pads, please contact us so we can arrange it

Since been quite few pics of Memory pads also not touching seems we also now need to change those pads too

 

[Drollic]

Some of the responses are so poorly written. The above one implies to remove grease from memory pads

 

[mikeo]

That sounds normal.

Mine doesn't do that.

 

[mikeo]

Do the new EVGA bios's have the fix for the micron memory too?

Yes. Confirmed by EVGA on their forum.

 

[mikeo]

Not sure if already posted but too lazy to scroll back
http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2576924



Since been quite few pics of Memory pads also not touching seems we also now need to change those pads too

Maybe EVGA should consider selling their cards in "kit form"

Being serious for a moment. I stop reading the EVGA forums for one day and yet another fix appears. O'well... the cards going to have to be dismantled anyway, so little extra effort I suppose.

PS. Don't have to worry about my card over heating playing games, as I think that all I've done for the last couple of weeks every night, is read the various forums and articles about this unfolding "situation". What next I wonder?

 

[IvanDobskey]

I think EVGA should go into partnership with Ikea.

What a total joke.

I want my money back, and I'll be doing my best to get it.