EVO Experts and those who just generally know about new EVO's

BenjiSayers said:
Hey,

Sorry to go OT but did you ever hear back from the Audi garage in regards to taking the RS4 out?

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Hi there

Been out in the RS4 this evening, also had a look at the brand new S5. I shall make a new thread. :)
 
Hi there

Cryingfreeman if you read this I would like you comments as you seem the resident EVO expert.

Please tell me all there is to know about the EVO 9 GT?

The guys over at Lancer Register get so excited at mention of such car that they all rave how ace it is but don't actually tell me why.

Upto now I make out it has no AYC, why is this good as I thought AYC was a great piece of handling technology for UK roads?

The car is supposedly 150kg lighter, which would make it 1250ish KG is this correct because thats damn light?

Does it really have quicker rack steering and a slightly larger and faster turbo?

Would appreciate in extracting everything from you that you know about the EVO 9 GT because from what I can gather it seems its the true drivers version of an EVO.
 
its only 5 speed rather than 6 like the GSR, and has some of the refinements that the GSR has but not all, whereas the RS has none.
 
Im not cryingfreeman, but off the top of my head - 5-speed gearbox, more gauges, aluminium roof, LSD instead of SAYC. Produces more torque than the GSR and others due to using a magnesium compressor wheel inside the turbo. Apparently its more responsive and has a much quicker spool-up. The 5 speed gearbox is needed to use the extra torque more appropriately I think. Its the same as an RS but with a GSR interior.
 
Wayn0r said:
its only 5 speed rather than 6 like the GSR, and has some of the refinements that the GSR has but not all, whereas the RS has none.
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Hi there

From what I can gather it has the GSR interior and refinements such as electric windows, central locking and aircon. But supposedly its missing AYC, is seam welded, has quicker steering and uses lighter panels along with lighter wheels. Its suggested to weigh 150kg less than the FQ UK cars which are circa 1400kg I believe.

If it does really weigh 1250kg, then one of them kicking circa 350 horses let alone 400 gonna be rather crazy.

Still I thought AYC was supposed to be like really good thing to have as it keeps the car going gives more grip etc, so how does removing it make the car better?
 
panthro said:
Im not cryingfreeman, but off the top of my head - 5-speed gearbox, more gauges, aluminium roof, LSD instead of SAYC. Produces more torque than the GSR and others due to using a magnesium compressor wheel inside the turbo. Apparently its more responsive and has a much quicker spool-up. The 5 speed gearbox is needed to use the extra torque more appropriately I think. Its the same as an RS but with a GSR interior.
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Hi there

So in other words its most probably the best EVO to have?

Is having an LSD better than having AYC?

Also from what I can see these don't suffer the same kind of depreciation as the more regular models due such as the GSR's and FQ's.

I like the thought of quicker turbos and more torque, its all good to my ears. :D
 
Hiya Bud :)

GT is a mix of an Rs and a GSR.

So it keeps creature comforts like leccy windows,mirrors and nice interior but looses the AYC.The diff is stronger and also a better drive from what I have heard, it also has the stronger 5 speed gearbox.

1250kg doesnt sound right bud, more like 1390 I think from memory.

The turbo on the GT just has a little more balls over the gsr one, have a read here :)

http://lancerregister.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89610&perpage=15&highlight=evo9 gt&pagenumber=1

nice power from little mods.

When people mention sam/evo-7 = The dentist :)

If you kept your eyes out you might be lucky and find a gt all ready done
 
Gibbo said:
Hi there

So in other words its most probably the best EVO to have?

Is having an LSD better than having AYC?

Also from what I can see these don't suffer the same kind of depreciation as the more regular models due such as the GSR's and FQ's.

I like the thought of quicker turbos and more torque, its all good to my ears. :D
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Its an import only, so dependant on what you want, you may find that a UK model would suit you better if you wanted warranty etc. If youre going down the modding route then all Evo's are of a similar spec and provide the same base to mod with. I dont think the turbo produces more power, but its spool up is supposed to be a lot quicker, probably a good thing as I have found when driving Evo's that they take a while to spin up fully.
Im not sure about the AYC/LSD thing. A guess would be that Mitsubishi didnt include the AYC to save weight...as the AYC provides LSD performance by balancing torque to each wheel and is a much more advanced system.
 
panthro said:
Its an import only, so dependant on what you want, you may find that a UK model would suit you better if you wanted warranty etc. If youre going down the modding route then all Evo's are of a similar spec and provide the same base to mod with. I dont think the turbo produces more power, but its spool up is supposed to be a lot quicker, probably a good thing as I have found when driving Evo's that they take a while to spin up fully.
Im not sure about the AYC/LSD thing. A guess would be that Mitsubishi didnt include the AYC to save weight...as the AYC provides LSD performance by balancing torque to each wheel and is a much more advanced system.
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Hi there

Well looking at the link Cryingfreeman posted the turbo seems to like tuning more. That guy got 420BHP from just air filter, fuel pump, magnex exhaust and ecutek and it cost him very little. The same on a UK FQ will see circa 380ish so a good 40BHP less so one can only assume the turbo on the GT is better for tuning and certainly spools quicker. :)

Thanks Cryingfreeman its certainly a car to consider, shame its not as lightweight as I thought though, still not bad. :)

Just spotted this:-
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The Mag Turbo in the EVO 9 GT clearly holds onto its power and torque right upto redline along with spooling up quicker wheras the other turbo in the GSR and FQ car does not hold power/torque upto redline and spools slower.

All I can say is I'd love to experience that car. 420BHP in something like that has got to be special, its gotta be ferociously quick especially sub 100mph and no doubt still damn mean past a ton as well. A guy has offered me a drive in his 385BHP GT but he is down at Heaththrow, damn that sucks.
 
I thought AYC dumps the torque from wheels that are struggling with grip based on the sensors measuring the yaw angle, a safety aid if anything as it would be better to apply more power to the wheel with more grip that reducing the power to the least grip, ala Honda SH-AWD.
 
Gibbo said:
Hi there

Well looking at the link Cryingfreeman posted the turbo seems to like tuning more. That guy got 420BHP from just air filter, fuel pump, magnex exhaust and ecutek and it cost him very little. The same on a UK FQ will see circa 380ish so a good 40BHP less so one can only assume the turbo on the GT is better for tuning and certainly spools quicker. :)

Thanks Cryingfreeman its certainly a car to consider, shame its not as lightweight as I thought though, still not bad.

Just spotted this:-
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The Mag Turbo in the EVO 9 GT clearly holds onto its power and torque right upto redline along with spooling up quicker wheras the other turbo in the GSR and FQ car does not hold power/torque upto redline and spools slower.

All I can say is I'd love to experience that car. 420BHP in something like that has got to be special, its gotta be ferociously quick especially sub 100mph and no doubt still damn mean past a ton as well. A guy has offered me a drive in his 385BHP GT but he is down at Heaththrow, damn that sucks.
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If your after a light weight Evo and to some still one of the best then Evo 5/6 RS is what you need. Probally older than your after though?

Mint 5rs can be had for under 10k which would leave you plenty spare for mods :D Then maybe have as second car :)
http://lancerregister.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=156940

The 5rs's are 1260kg :)

BTW for insurance try Pace ward on MLR. They cover all models and mods without hassle,also track day cover etc.
 
Cryfreeman said:
If your after a light weight Evo and to some still one of the best then Evo 5/6 RS is what you need. Probally older than your after though?

Mint 5rs can be had for under 10k which would leave you plenty spare for mods :D Then maybe have as second car :)
http://lancerregister.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=156940

The 5rs's are 1260kg :)

BTW for insurance try Pace ward on MLR. They cover all models and mods without hassle,also track day cover etc.
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Hi m8

Nope ideally only want an EVO 9, as its new, its got the Mivec which helps and well in theory each generation of EVO should be better than the last but I can see why an EVO 5 is good due to the lack of weight.
 
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