Evo or Impreza?

Deadly!

Unless you're prepared to polish the damn thing every weekend I'd chose a different colour.
 
The STi will make you smile every time you start it up. Although hearing comments about the Evo is definitely worth considering. I may get a toy come December time as i'll have a bit more time in the country at that point..Sam, what are your thoughts between the VX/STi/Evo?

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Really really really think about affordability of being able to run one. Personally, I get annoyed enough at filling my Type R up every week, I'd get even more annoyed at going twice a week in an Evo. Then there's the servicing, tyres, insurance etc etc.

I've thought long and hard about getting an Evo 5 or 6 but each time I look into running costs I just cringe. Can I afford to run one? Yes. Do I want to pay to run one? No.

As for Evo vs Scooby, it'd be Evo every time for me. Most Scooby's I've driven understeer badly, whereas every Evo I've driven (ran one for 6 months while my friend was in Afghan so I have a fair idea) is just bonkers and goes sideways very easily and is just much more fun to drive.
 
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There is a technique to driving scoobs... you have to learn how to get the best out of them.

Saying that... a properly set up one with DCCD as open as it can be and they're actually pretty tail-happy :p
 
crinkleshoes said:
I wouldn't choose that tbh.

The difference between the WRX and STI (unless I'm mistaken)... the STI has a forged build and significantly more power.
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The internals aren't really that much stronger. If Subaru manufacture a car with a VF30 turbo (the one on the MY00 Type RA) and a car with a VF28 (P1/V5 STI) yet one has a WRX engine base and the other an STI, they obviously thought the WRX engine could cope with the turbo.

As for power, as standard the STI would produce more - however, once in the UK both should be mapped for UK fuel which would mean at the same time you'd get a power hike. You really won't get that much more "safe" power out of the engine just because its an STI.

Mine was about 320HP and had been like that for about 8 years without complaint. Would be no more or less powerful had the car been a P1 - although it was quicker due to the low ratio gearing (I found it far too low and was one reason for selling - a Type R will have the same low ratio. Not even 5th was that great and I'd have loved a UK 5th cog in there.

If you have to have an STI then fair enough. Just be aware that an RA will do pretty much the same as an STI - yet be cheaper to buy and insure.
 
Des, I think it's a "hot" version of the STi, like an Evo RS.

Dr Who said:
Skill Cap is higher on the Scooby :)
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I think that's pretty debatable.

As I've said, I've driven both and I prefer driving the Evo. I don't care which car is faster round Brands Hatch, or between my two favourite roundabouts in Watford, all I know is that I had more fun behind the wheel of any Evo I've driven compared to any Scoob I have.
 
I thought the UK WRXes of that era were kicking out about 237BHP stock... whereas the STI is about 280BHP?

On Texaco 97 mine made 320BHP with only a sensible exhaust mod... maybe 325/330 when I have it remapped for shell vpower / tesco 99?

Not certain how that would compare to a WRX.

Was yours a WRX or STI?
 
MilanoChris said:
Des, I think it's a "hot" version of the STi, like an Evo RS.

I think that's pretty debatable.

As I've said, I've driven both and I prefer driving the Evo. I don't care which car is faster round Brands Hatch, or between my two favourite roundabouts in Watford, all I know is that I had more fun behind the wheel of any Evo I've driven compared to any Scoob I have.
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I agree that the skill level required to push a scoob is higher than an Evo.

But yeah, you can have more fun in an Evo.

Personally... I think the scoob is the better road car.

If mine was purely for track use instead of mainly road with only the odd track day/autosolo, I would have gone for an Evo... I rather like them too :D

The way you can just hang the back end out so incredibly easily is intoxicating.
 
dessimpson said:
I always thought the RA was an STI?
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With regards to the "classics"

RA would be at the end of either WRX Type RA or STI Type RA.

The WRX Type RA had the turbo of the STI (or similar of that year) and the low ratio gearbox of the STI of that year. It also has ABS.

The STI Type RA would have DCCD but no ABS. Yes there are some internal differences but none that would really make the WRX Type RA really any slower.

You won't have a classic STI Type RA with DCCD and ABS.


In the Newages, the RA (or RA-R for uber hardcore) denotes a more hardcore STI. You don't get newage WRX Type RAs.

Theres also the S range. The S201 being the classic based on an STI Type RA WRC edition but with a horrific bodykit. The S202 is the bugeye and considered particularly good but still hardcore. The S204 is a bit calmer (from what I've read of others who have driven it) but has probably the most awesome seats ever fitted to an Impreza as standard.

The bugeye WRX also got some dodgy styling mods from Porsche which are quite rare but a bit ugly. :)


crinkleshoes said:
Not certain how that would compare to a WRX.

Was yours a WRX or STI?
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If the two cars have the same turbo then the maximum power is largely governed by how much pressure the turbo can cope with - with forged internals that pressure can be sustained longer before failure. But we are talking small quick spool turbos like the VF28/29/30.

I had a UK Turbo that was about 240HP on an ECUTEK map - they might tell you 270 when it's first mapped but with your credit card in hand they'll tell you anything :) My MY00 Type RA was a WRC edition (blue dash bits and the blue seude seats which are just immense. That had a VF29 and put out 300+ and felt proper quick. Sinking feeling in the stomach quick which the UK car just never did.

Same as this.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1633834.htm

If this owner could knock a grand off I'd possibly go in for another go with the RA. I think I sold too quickly TBH.
 
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