Evo or Impreza?

Subaru "classics" had different internals and blocks to the "new age" 2ltr cars, which have stronger rods (big plus side for the new age cars) hence why they can run 400+bhp all day when well maintained ;)

New age JDM cars (twin scroll, THE best petrol engine subaru have produced to date :D) are different again to the UK 2ltr engines, with revised cranks (drilled/nitrided for better oil flow/strength), quick rack steering, rear wash wipe and lots of other little goodies over UK cars that make them a more desirable car to own (though people will try to put you off saying they rev their nuts off on the motorway at 70), 3k rpm isnt too bad tbh.

You also have some differences with the diffs, for instance, it was only the classic STI type RA that actually had a helical/Suretrac type front diff standard, it was open on virtually all the other classics, on 2003 onward STI's (especially JDM's) it was an AP suretrac type, the 2005 changed back to helical, these new age STI's also run with a R180 plated rear diff, same as the later version 4-6 STI type R/RA's (maybe also the standard classic 4-6 sti, would need to have a look).

Tuning wise, your average UK 2ltr is capable of around 350bhp on its standard turbo with a remap/exhaust/fuelpump upgrade, your JDM will be a little higher (twin scroll) on average with more torque (370-400lbs) if you get a good mapper :D

Then your going to have to choose a spec, its fairly easy with an Evo, GSR or RS, the RS being more "hard core", with the MY03 onwards STI's you have (say 2003-2004 cars including the WR1 and PPP cars), your bog standard UK 265ps car, your PPP'd 305ps car, your 320ps (PPP) WR1 (note it comes with A-DCCD which was only available to the Solberg edition which the WR1 is based upon), then you have your JDM versions, the KL or "poverty spec", jap import, doesnt have A-DCCD so its best avoided, the GL which does have the A-DCCD, the Spec C (which all the later MY cars from 2005 based the geometry/wheelbase setup on) which is the lightweight and quickest version, in 3 versions between these dates, the 16 inch motorsport (just dccd, no auto mode and depletes several other parts like engine oil coolers, 16 inch steel wheels,hence the 16 inch version and not very decent throw away justy type interior,) its basically a car designed for stripping down, the 17 inch version with the really nice BBS wheels (also available on the drivers pack for the GL), no electric anything/central locking etc but has all the goodies like oil coolers (front mounted type), and the Limited verision which didnt have the BBS wheels :( but had a ncie black interior, passenger sun visor and electrics/central locking.

There are lots to choose from, some are a lot rarer than others and you have to know what your looking for, but great cars, whooped butt against the evo 9 on a photo shoot for evo mag greece back in 2005 when the "9" had just come out ;) and lots of good advice from the likes of Edd and scooby there too :D

Tony:)

tl;dr

dont buy red cars
 
been having a think and after totalling insurance, running costs and cost aside to find one in the UK (travelling costs etc).

I will be spending £7k absolute max and i am only interested in EVO V's or IV's (5's & 6's). The TME ones are £9000 - £10,000 so they are out of the question.

I still owuld consider an Impreza TYPE R, however i'd prefer an EVO over the two. Now then, i have seen a Type R Impreza for sale cheap with DCY and it has 3 months warranty and is about £5.5k.

DCY have an excellent reputation and are members of MLR & ScoobyNet.

For £7K I'd be looking for a UK impreza 05 STI. 5s and 6s at best are going to be pushing 11 years old. The Impreza will be half that age and being a UK car you'll at least have a chance of knowing it's history since purchase.

http://bbs.scoobynet.com/subaru-444/897420-for-sale-2005-sti-type-uk-ppp.html
 
Drive both , buy your favourite. I had an Impreza , then test drove an Evo. Bought one a month later. :D
 
Just been having a hard an long think.

Can I afford one of these cars?

My disposable monthly income after all bills paid is: £700.

I will be paying for insurance up front and will be driving the car upto 80miles a week max!

If I go for an evo or impreza am I being stupid? Or is that a comfortable of money to be able to run one of these cars? I like to go out for tea and cinema every so often and buy clothes from the high street. I also enjoy gaming on pc and xbox.
 
My Impreza, albeit 'just' a WRX, is easily runnable on that income. It's been pretty cheap to run even doing 350 odd miles a week.

STi or Evo will be higher, but couldn't say how much.

If you had been looking at 182s, Leons etc then what about a MY05 WRX + PPP/remap? Not as quick, hardcore as the others and most will say they are crap but worth a look maybe.
 
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Yeh, if u go for an impreza I fancy an wrx or an evo. If I wasn't going to gonfor one of them I'd prob just stick getting a 182 and wait a couple of years. I don't actually need a car just want one.
 
You cannot compare a wrx to an evo, its just not in the same category, you need to compare the STI to the Evo, if you buy a wrx then go to an evo its going to feel miles apart, its like those who buy a wrx then go to the sti, they are shocked how good and how much better the car is.

Anyway, OP you need to drive as many different subaru's as you can (all evo's are the same ;):p) but if you can drive a JDM twin scroll I think you will be sold :D

You could always ask David at API in Warwickshire if he is getting anything in from Japan, you can get a nice car off him, here is an example :D

http://www.apiengines.com/car_sales_detail.php?id=28

Tony:)
 
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3035924.htm. Might go for something like that. Cheap, leaves cash to make it my own and looks immaculate. Has the hand 4 doors like an Evo too.

Thats actually quite expensive for a V3 STI. However, the V3 is considered to be the most powerful or rather tuneable out of the box.




Thats not really "that" cheap. It's low miles but how come a car with only 42K has had to have a new clutch? Even with PPP power OE clutches can last over 100K.

Also if you're looking at UK cars then a bugeye and blobeye are mechanically the same up to late 54 when they got DCCD. I'd spend 6K on a bugeye STI and keep the rest for suspension mods.


If it classic, classic or classic then I would have a good think about what you actually want to end up with. Do you want a mint standard looking car or do you want to modify it? If you want to mod it by how much? Light or heavy?

This will dictate what you buy. If you want some hardcore track car I don't see the point buying expensive. If you want mint standard looking theres no point buying a minter then modding the heck out of it and largely de-valuing the car and if you want to sell you'll have to break it.

The amount of cars on SNet that are heavily modded and offered for like 6-7K soon end up being broken for parts.

Personally I love the noise Imprezas make and 90% of buying it is for the noise alone. Hence why I've never really been too fussed on EVOs (although they are nice)
 
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