Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

Exit poll: Who did you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 302 27.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 577 52.6%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 104 9.5%
  • Green

    Votes: 13 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 19 1.7%
  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 30 2.7%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 6 0.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 4.2%

  • Total voters
    1,097
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I certainly think we do risk heightening tensions, but do the IRA and related paramilitaries currently have access to such means? I'm a little ignorant of anything NI, so perhaps they really do?

Not everyone accepted the GFA, just a single look at the referendum result will show you the risk.

Almost 1/3rd of people didnt want it.
 
Thought they'd put their arms "beyond use" as part of the Good Friday Agreement. You're basically saying that Sinn Fein IRA have been lying about being committed to peace while they've been part of the NI Assembley - yet still taking their side. Corbyn would be proud of you.

no I am not saying that, but as they are/were the 9th richest terror organisation in the world it's not exactly rocket science if they want to get tooled up again.



http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...chest-terror-group-in-the-world-30748913.html

So unless that 32million has been confiscated or lost then they can move themselves in pretty fast I would have thought.
 
Thought they'd put their arms "beyond use" as part of the Good Friday Agreement. You're basically saying that Sinn Fein IRA have been lying about being committed to peace while they've been part of the NI Assembley - yet still taking their side. Corbyn would be proud of you.
Do you ever go up to wasps nests and nudge it, and nudge it a bit more, and then when you get attacked by the wasps you try and tell them that their response is disproportionate? It's not taking the wasps side to say don't go and **** them off.

Wasps aren't rational, and neither are the IRA.

Neither are the loyalist paramilitaries, and regardless of who is worse and who started it, there is a decently stable peace there now. And you don't disturb that peace unless you have an end game. Do you have one?
 
Kind of weird to see all the hate directed towards the DUP from Labour voters when Labour tried to do their own deals with them in the recent past ............................
 
Do you ever go up to wasps nests and nudge it, and nudge it a bit more, and then when you get attacked by the wasps you try and tell them that their response is disproportionate? It's not taking the wasps side to say don't go and **** them off.

Wasps aren't rational, and neither are the IRA.

Neither are the loyalist paramilitaries, and regardless of who is worse and who started it, there is a decently stable peace there now. And you don't disturb that peace unless you have an end game. Do you have one?
Does the GFA not allow for NI parties to run for the Westminster parliament? Why should they be discriminated against because some the terrorists don't like them?

What I do to wasps nests btw is go up to them and smother them in insecticide.

Kind of weird to see all the hate directed towards the DUP from Labour voters when Labour tried to do their own deals with them in the recent past ............................

Let's be honest, these smears on the DUP are coming straight from the Momentum social media propaganda outlet - very effectively I might add. Seems like people in this country aren't able to think critically any more.
 
Kind of weird to see all the hate directed towards the DUP from Labour voters when Labour tried to do their own deals with them in the recent past ............................

I voted Tory and Cameron in 2010 and 2015 and was horrified at thought of a labour government propped up by the DUP then
 
probably about the same amount as young people who want to retain tuition fees at their current levels? People obviously vote in their self interest to a degree be they young or old.

I think that was the guys point. Many people on this forum have been complaining that the young vote was 'bought' or they were 'bribed'. Well if that's the case then so were the old.... But then the same people deny that.

I'm only 28 so I have a lot of friends in the younger age group. Of those that voted labour... Tuition fees were one of but not the main factor in voting for them.

Many wanted a fairer society, a real housing solution, amongst other things. The tories were seen to be going heavily right wing which did not was well with an age group that values freedom and tolerance.
 
Then I'd give it 6 months 1 day until they are banged up smearing their dung on the cell walls.

yep, but the damage will be done for something that could be wholly avoidable if May grew some balls and actually tried to cross bench rather than bribe, or take her medicine, realize she is a lame duck and GTFO
 
yep, but the damage will be done for something that could be wholly avoidable if May grew some balls and actually tried to cross bench rather than bribe, or take her medicine, realize she is a lame duck and GTFO
She's putting herself (or, more accurately, being put) in the line of fire. Tories will keep her in place soaking up the flak until they can get a new guy in without him/her being poisoned by the current omnishambles.
 
Kind of weird to see all the hate directed towards the DUP from Labour voters when Labour tried to do their own deals with them in the recent past ............................

Brown wrote to the DUP prior to the election saying he would not institute spending cuts of the kind proposed by the Tories. At the time, it was seen as a "bribe" for DUP support if needed, which it possibly was, but no discussions with the DUP ever took place about any kind of support arrangement.

Discussion about seeking DUP support took place within the government behind the scenes, unsurprisingly, but that was never pursued. Very different scenario to actively engaging with and meeting with DUP as the Tories are doing now.

Also that was Browns new labour nothing to do with Corbyn's modern party.
 
Let's be honest, these smears on the DUP are coming straight from the Momentum social media propaganda outlet - very effectively I might add. Seems like people in this country aren't able to think critically any more.
i know.. you'd never see the mainstream (right wing) press employing the same tactics would you? Everyone who consumes that media is a solid critical thinker! hahaha. talk about led like a lamb to a kebab shop, honestly..

B@
 
Thought it was exactly about that - you don't like the idea of the DUP working with the government. Well hard cheese, the election delivered 318 seats for the Conservatives and 10 for the DUP which is enough for a government - that's called democracy.


This is not the same as the arrangement with the Lib Dems. This is the DUP blackmailing the conservatives in order to boost them up to a majority. The risks associated with this may be very high on the Northern Ireland side.
 
This is not the same as the arrangement with the Lib Dems. This is the DUP blackmailing the conservatives in order to boost them up to a majority. The risks associated with this may be very high on the Northern Ireland side.
"Blackmailing"? Get a grip - it's called negotiation, the Conservatives are free to walk away any time they want. Oh and it's exactly the same principle as the Lib Dem deal, who "blackmailed" (lol) the Conservatives into having a referendum on AV as part of the deal.
 
"Blackmailing"? Get a grip - it's called negotiation, the Conservatives are free to walk away any time they want. Oh and it's exactly the same principle as the Lib Dem deal, who "blackmailed" (lol) the Conservatives into having a referendum on AV as part of the deal.

I don't know why I am bothering to be honest. Votes for cash is blackmail, agreeing to merge and tweak each others manifesto to make a combined one is not. The conservatives won't walk away as they get power. The only losers here are us.
 
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