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Shimmy said:
I'm sure drivers will cope fine.
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Of course they will.

Give drivers 2 steering wheels to control at the same time with 5 pedals...they will cope fine. They won't go very fast and will probably have a higher chance of crashing...but they will cope.

The point is by giving drivers more things to do in the **** pit, it increases the chances of error (and possibly a crash). More errors also mean slower lap times.

The drivers who are best at multi-tasking are those that will fair best.
 
SPARC said:
Kubica may be injured ... could Senna be back in ?

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/02/06/robert-kubica-reported-injured-in-rally-accident/

I hope the guy is ok.
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Me too. Obviously I disagree with the whole thing that Bahar is trying to do with Lotus, Renault and the 'proper' Lotus name but I hope that RENAULT car is a good one for Kubica's sake. F1 needs a driver of his calibre to be able to make things interesting by winning races. I expect Alonso, Hamilton, Button, Vettel or Webber to be the main protagonists for the 2011 title but if Kubica and Rosberg could make things interesting then all the better for F1. :)

Btw a driver called Senna in a car with a JPS livery? Anyone else getting deja vu? :p
 
MarcLister said:
Me too. Obviously I disagree with the whole thing that Bahar is trying to do with Lotus, Renault and the 'proper' Lotus name but I hope that RENAULT car is a good one for Kubica's sake. F1 needs a driver of his calibre to be able to make things interesting by winning races. I expect Alonso, Hamilton, Button, Vettel or Webber to be the main protagonists for the 2011 title but if Kubica and Rosberg could make things interesting then all the better for F1. :)

Btw a driver called Senna in a car with a JPS livery? Anyone else getting deja vu? :p
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BBC's take on Kubica

Bad Kubica, just when things were starting to look up again for the pole and this happens, on the other side it's could be a good boost for Senna to show he can drive at the top level.
 
mctiny said:
BBC's take on Kubica

Bad Kubica, just when things were starting to look up again for the pole and this happens, on the other side it's could be a good boost for Senna to show he can drive at the top level.
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True on both counts. I didn't realise Kubica already had titanium bolts in his arm from an accident in 2003. I wonder if the BBC are over reacting a bit when they say there might be serious doubts over his ability to continue in the sport. The injuries he's suffered must be quite bad, or look that way, for that to be said.
 
sunama said:
Of course they will.

Give drivers 2 steering wheels to control at the same time with 5 pedals...they will cope fine. They won't go very fast and will probably have a higher chance of crashing...but they will cope.

The point is by giving drivers more things to do in the **** pit, it increases the chances of error (and possibly a crash). More errors also mean slower lap times.

The drivers who are best at multi-tasking are those that will fair best.
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drivers like rubens and schumacher who drove back when they had a real gear stick will fare well then...
 
arknor said:
drivers like rubens and schumacher who drove back when they had a real gear stick will fare well then...
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Driving with a gear stick was a piece of cake. In that era, the steering wheel was simple. Do a google and you will see what I mean. Those cars were comparatively simple to control. In those days, you could actually "feel" the car. You could power slide while remaining in control. In 2011, power sliding is nigh on impossible, without spinning off.

In 2011, the driver has to be capable of multi tasking in a way that Senna, Mansell, etc could never even have dreamed about.

In fact,
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/50473/

Ferrari’s Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa, and Williams driver Ruben Barrichello, have said that the extra effort needed to watch for lights and push buttons, combined with the reintroduction of KERS, adds too much to a driver’s workload.
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And that is coming from Alonso (arguably the best driver in F1) and the driver who you referred to earlier - Barrichello.

People view the past with rose-tinted specs. My belief is that in 2011, cars are more difficult to drive than ever and drivers have had to "up their game" to cope with the additional difficulty.

I believe that drivers who have grown up playing computer/console games, pressing lots of buttons and memorising button combinations are most likely to find the multi-tasking easiest. The old school drivers like Barrichello will struggle.

This is the reason why I believe that Hamilton's advantage over Button will actually increase in 2011, as compared to 2010.

We shall know whether I am wrong or right by the end of 2011.
 
sunama said:
Driving with a gear stick was a piece of cake. In that era, the steering wheel was simple. Do a google and you will see what I mean. Those cars were comparatively simple to control. In those days, you could actually "feel" the car. You could power slide while remaining in control. In 2011, power sliding is nigh on impossible, without spinning off.
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No one seems to have told Lewis that you can't power slide a modern F1 car.
 
Alibaba99 said:
No one seems to have told Lewis that you can't power slide a modern F1 car.
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He does do it, but it is VERY rare.
You are also using the example of the most aggressive driver in F1.

If you go back to the 70s and 80s, you could find many drivers power-sliding their cars on multiple occasions, on every lap. In fact, even during an overtake, you could find drivers who were able to control their car so well that they had confidence that even during a power slide, they were in control and wouldn't go in a spin. In modern F1, this rarely happens as the cars are far less forgiving and difficult to keep on the road.

...and just to point out, a power-slide is usually a bad trait. If you power-slide during a lap, most of the time, you will probably lose time. So, power-sliding is not something that a driver should be proud of. The same goes for creating heavy wheel spin, lighting up the tyres at the start of a GP or braking so heavily into a corner that you flat-spot the tyres. To the uninitiated, it looks good, but shows a lack of skill.
 
de la rosa said he didnt need to take his eyes off the road for kers and he fduct was thew hardest pard of driving last year.

with the fduct gone it should be easier than last year.

you get the barrichellos though who say you have to look down at the buttons, some drivers dont do this
 
arknor said:
you get the barrichellos though who say you have to look down at the buttons, some drivers dont do this
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I remember hearing someone on the BBC F1 coverage in 2009 I think saying that Lewis had spent part of the winter learning to use the steering wheel and the buttons on it without looking down by blindfolding himself or something until he was able to choose any button without having to look down at the wheel.
 
MarcLister said:
I remember hearing someone on the BBC F1 coverage in 2009 I think saying that Lewis had spent part of the winter learning to use the steering wheel and the buttons on it without looking down by blindfolding himself or something until he was able to choose any button without having to look down at the wheel.
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Probably a good thing going by past issues :p
 
MarcLister said:
I remember hearing someone on the BBC F1 coverage in 2009 I think saying that Lewis had spent part of the winter learning to use the steering wheel and the buttons on it without looking down ...
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This is something that any console gamer would need to do, when becoming proficient at playing a particular game.
 
PlumpMonkey said:
Are you referring to a specific issue where he selected something wrong on the steering wheel? I wasn't aware of any such screw up that could be contributed to that. Can you elaborate?
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In his first year he pushed the wrong button on the car and coasted for a bit, before correcting it (or team remotely helping).
 
Duke said:
In his first year he pushed the wrong button on the car and coasted for a bit, before correcting it (or team remotely helping).
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Yep, Brazil '07. After getting mugged at the start by some superb Ferrari choreography, and trying a move on Alonso that he didn't need to make and going skating off, he found himself down the order a bit. Things really turned to worms after that on about lap 9 when he pressed something that pretty much shut the car down for a few corners. By the time he got going again, he was down in 18th.

And yet the ITV F1 commentary still insisted that the title was his to lose for most of the race....
 
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