F1 2011 season news / pre-season updates

GravyMonster · 8 Feb 2011 at 16:31

The actual story is true - Ecclestone did say that Vettel would make an ideal son in law - it's just the quote from Tamara that's made up.

Here's the full article so you can see it for yourself.

sunama · 8 Feb 2011 at 17:01

FrankJH said:
If anything maybe Vettel would sue (defamation) but he probably sees the funny side too

I'm not sure if he would want to highlight the "Shrek comment", which is what would happen if he decided to make a big deal. Also if T.Ecclestone really did say that, would Vettel really want to get on the wrong side of her father?

On a related note, would that be classed as "defamation"?

mctiny · 8 Feb 2011 at 17:22

sunama said:
I'm not sure if he would want to highlight the "Shrek comment", which is what would happen if he decided to make a big deal. Also if T.Ecclestone really did say that, would Vettel really want to get on the wrong side of her father?

On a related note, would that be classed as "defamation"?

Honestly I don't think it be classed as 'defamation', more like an unwanted insult...

and if it was in the public domain then not much he could do anyway...

FrankJH · 8 Feb 2011 at 18:34

the whole point of defamation IS that its in the public domain

I suppose Tamara doesnt have direct control over his career, it would probably be a bigger deal if Bernie had said it (not that he would)

Witor · 9 Feb 2011 at 11:52

Change of tack. Will be heading up to Jerez tomorrow to catch the pre-season testing. However I cant find which teams are heading down there tomorrow. Will be taking a mate who posts on these forums (Alex53) who's a much better photographer than myself

Flibster · 9 Feb 2011 at 12:07

To be honest to Vettel. He's more Donkey.
Montoya is more Shrek like.

Mr Jack · 9 Feb 2011 at 12:21

Witor said:
However I cant find which teams are heading down there tomorrow.

From the official site

sunama · 9 Feb 2011 at 12:25

Shrek has a rounded/spherical head, which is completely unlike Vettel, who has a long face.

What is Montoya doing these days? Is he doing some form of stock car racing, like NASCAR or similar? Is he doing well?

Montoya has one heck of a temper on him. I remember a cameraman bumped into his head by accident once and Montoya was ready to have a physical fight with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQWSfiAfB4o

What a pillock.

CaptainRAVE · 9 Feb 2011 at 12:38

sunama said:
Shrek has a rounded/spherical head, which is completely unlike Vettel, who has a long face.

What is Montoya doing these days? Is he doing some form of stock car racing, like NASCAR or similar? Is he doing well?

Montoya has one heck of a temper on him. I remember a cameraman bumped into his head by accident once and Montoya was ready to have a physical fight with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQWSfiAfB4o

What a pillock.

That is one of my favourite clips from F1 - I liked his temper, it kept him interesting (although it also stopped him winning championships). It also stopped him bending over whenever Schumacher was around - most drivers just used to jump out the way. Too many drivers these days have nothing interesting going on for them - and when they do show a bit of personality (like Hamilton used to in his early years), they get slated by the media and fans.

sunama · 9 Feb 2011 at 12:41

Nothing wrong with having a personality, but trying to pick a fight with somebody who bumped into you by mistake, is just idiotic.

Mr Jack · 9 Feb 2011 at 12:56

sunama said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQWSfiAfB4o

What a pillock.

Can't say I blame him. What on earth did that cameraman think he was doing? The muppet.

sunama · 9 Feb 2011 at 13:07

Mr Jack said:
Can't say I blame him. What on earth did that cameraman think he was doing? The muppet.

If somebody bumps into you, unintentionally, while you are walking down the street, would you beat him up?

EddScott · 9 Feb 2011 at 13:11

Witor said:
Change of tack. Will be heading up to Jerez tomorrow to catch the pre-season testing. However I cant find which teams are heading down there tomorrow. Will be taking a mate who posts on these forums (Alex53) who's a much better photographer than myself

How long will it take you?

My brother lives in Gib and has no interest in cars but might be a good excuse to pop over and see him.

Malt_Vinegar · 9 Feb 2011 at 13:15

You might be a bit miffed in the heat of the moment, I know I would!

When you walk around with a big hefty bit of equipment like that, you need to pay attention to where you are going..

PinkFloyd · 9 Feb 2011 at 13:57

sunama said:
If somebody bumps into you, unintentionally, while you are walking down the street, would you beat him up?

Think I'd have done the same as Montoya in that instance.

It's one thing to brush shoulders or similar.... But having someone walk into you and smack you in the head with a big heavy camera being carried by someone who clearly wasn't looking where they were going is completely different.

Dutch Guy · 9 Feb 2011 at 14:01

Mr Jack said:
Can't say I blame him. What on earth did that cameraman think he was doing? The muppet.

He was looking thru the viewfinder, the Colombian ***** should have watched where he was walking

Mr Jack · 9 Feb 2011 at 14:08

sunama said:
If somebody bumps into you, unintentionally, while you are walking down the street, would you beat him up?

1. You'll note that he didn't beat him up.
2. It wasn't a street. It was at an F1 race where any competent cameraman should have been looking where he was swinging the thing.

Mr Jack · 9 Feb 2011 at 14:10

Dutch Guy said:
He was looking thru the viewfinder, the Colombian ***** should have watched where he was walking

The cameraman hit him. He didn't walk into the cameraman. The cameraman was only there because he was filming JPM and his girl, and only hit Montoya because he was too busy getting shots of the hot chick to pay attention.

sunama · 9 Feb 2011 at 14:14

Mr Jack said:
1. You'll note that he didn't beat him up.

He tried to. His wife stopped him and other people were preventing Montoya from taking physical action.

Mr Jack said:
2. It wasn't a street. It was at an F1 race where any competent cameraman should have been looking where he was swinging the thing.

It doesn't matter where you are. If somebody bumps into you by mistake (and even hits your head, by mistake) and is apologetic, attempting to fight the person is not right.

I live in London and it is densely populated. On many occasions people bump into eachother. Its no big deal and usually does not end up with one party attempting to fight the other over the incident. Had Montoya decided to fight the guy and the guy took a beating, a court of law would definitely have punished Montoya.

Remember, the camera man did not intend to bump into Montoya's head. Montoya on the other hand (had he been allowed to fight), had intent to cause the camera man bodily harm. The best thing was that it was all on camera, so Montoya would not have had any defence.

sunama · 9 Feb 2011 at 14:15

Mr Jack said:
...and only hit Montoya because he was too busy getting shots of the hot chick to pay attention.