F1 Testing 2012 - Week 1, Jerez

Duke · 7 Feb 2012 at 17:12

utajoker said:
Do Mercedes have a stepped nose?

They are running the 2011 spec car with various 2012 parts being tested, so we won't know until they use the proper 2012 car.

[TW]Taggart · 7 Feb 2012 at 17:38

(tinfoil hatmode on) the redbull scoop is to aid the cooling of exhaust gasses so they can run lighter materials on suspension components/lower wing (tinfoil hatmode off)

CaptainRAVE · 7 Feb 2012 at 17:45

Will be interesting to see the final cars. They are hiding a lot this year.

Reaper 392 · 7 Feb 2012 at 18:15

someone on the cars forum just posted this link. it looks great for tracking who is doing what and where:

http://f1tests.co.cc/2012.php?rev=on

no idea how close to live it is because ive only just found out about it

Glaucus · 7 Feb 2012 at 18:16

[TW]Taggart;21214897 said:
(tinfoil hatmode on) the redbull scoop is to aid the cooling of exhaust gasses so they can run lighter materials on suspension components/lower wing (tinfoil hatmode off)

The exhaust can only have one opening. So they can't mix cold air in with it.
Unless you mean something else.

Weebull · 7 Feb 2012 at 19:19

Kerming said:
TBH these new cars look amazing, forget about the funny nose just look at the back of the force india for example.....[/QUOTE]

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funky rear brake drums[/QUOTE]

Clearly I'm going to have to go to the rear ends to get any fill of good looks this year. Woof. :cool:

Mr Men · 7 Feb 2012 at 19:39

Ted Kravitz - Ferrari's pullrod front suspension is impressive, they confirm had to strengthen upright to handle the increased loads. Gives aero benefit.

Weebull · 7 Feb 2012 at 19:53

Mr Men said:
Ted Kravitz - Ferrari's pullrod front suspension is impressive, they confirm had to strengthen upright to handle the increased loads. Gives aero benefit.

Would that suggest there's more in the chassis gap under the "step" than other teams then? Might explain why they've gone for that rigid slope, rather than a U-shape.

Mr Men · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:03

Yeah it seemed strange the bump was so big with that suspension

Shimmy · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:06

Shimmy said:
There was a good site last year which had all the laps and times for each car separated into stints. Don't remember the name though.

Reaper 392 said:
someone on the cars forum just posted this link. it looks great for tracking who is doing what and where:

http://f1tests.co.cc/2012.php?rev=on

no idea how close to live it is because ive only just found out about it

That's the site I was looking for!

It works great btw. :cool:

FrankJH · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:07

Glaucus said:
The exhaust can only have one opening. So they can't mix cold air in with it.
Unless you mean something else.

maybe Im misunderstanding what you are meaning but I thought a few cars had an exhaust opening on both sides of the car (ie two openings)?

JonnyGLC · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:09

Mr Men said:
Yeah it seemed strange the bump was so big with that suspension

I'm assuming the bump is so big because the bulkhead will have a mandatory thickness anyway (with a maximum height of 650mm seems to ring a bell), so they've lifted up the entire structure to allow for a greater gap underneath the front of the car. Then the nose has the maximum height of 550mm, so you can either have a lower bulkhead with a neater slope or a higher bulkhead with the ugly slope.

I think

Jono8 · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:29

just seen the pictures from todays testing. These cars are so god damn ugly

Glaucus · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:32

FrankJH said:
maybe Im misunderstanding what you are meaning but I thought a few cars had an exhaust opening on both sides of the car (ie two openings)?

Yeah they all have that. They cant have other inlets for cold air, or outlets anywhere else. So opening to the engine and opening at the end of the exhaust. They can't do anything else with it.

Shimmy · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:39

Positive words from JB

http://adamcooperf1.com/2012/02/07/jenson-button-it-feels-like-a-very-good-base/

JonnyGLC · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:42

Shimmy said:
Positive words from JB

http://adamcooperf1.com/2012/02/07/jenson-button-it-feels-like-a-very-good-base/

I'd like to agree, but it's hard to.

The reason they did so well last year was down to the fact that they could literally bolt on 2 seconds before Melbourne, just by putting on a new exhaust. If they don't have the speed this year, where's the magical innovation going to come from?

Mr Jack · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:42

Reaper 392 said:
http://f1tests.co.cc/2012.php?rev=on

My antivirus is blocking that site.

~Mike~ · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:45

Shimmy said:
Positive words from JB

http://adamcooperf1.com/2012/02/07/jenson-button-it-feels-like-a-very-good-base/

Glad to here their not on the back foot this year. Let's hope they have a good base to improve upon.

Shimmy · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:50

Kimi's first impressions

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97404

A random name said:
I'd like to agree, but it's hard to.

The reason they did so well last year was down to the fact that they could literally bolt on 2 seconds before Melbourne, just by putting on a new exhaust. If they don't have the speed this year, where's the magical innovation going to come from?

If you're to believe 'Mr Men' it's a higher tub and stepped front nose.

/tongue firmly in cheek.

Either way, much better start than last year where they had endless issues.

JonnyGLC · 7 Feb 2012 at 20:55

Shimmy said:
Kimi's first impressions

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97404

If you're to believe 'Mr Men' it's a higher tub and stepped front nose.

/tongue firmly in cheek.

Either way, much better start than last year where they had endless issues.

Yeah of course, it's nice to see 60 laps on the board this year rather than 10